Has BRH been cancelled?
Has BRH been cancelled?
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Could be Bombs, Retard, Heavy (I'm showing my age!)
but I suspect Stab really means Battlefield Replacement Helicopter.
And, no, I don't know if it's been cancelled (unless the BRH was the Danish Merlins!)
but I suspect Stab really means Battlefield Replacement Helicopter.
And, no, I don't know if it's been cancelled (unless the BRH was the Danish Merlins!)
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BRH - Battlefield Recconaisance Helicopter
i.e. Future Lynx for the AAC
"In June 2006, AgustaWestland announced the award of the contract by the UK MoD for 70 Future Lynx helicopters, 40 for the Army and 30 for the Navy. The contract also provides an option for a further ten aircraft, five for the Army and five for the Navy.
The first flight of the Future Lynx helicopter will take place in late 2009 with first deliveries starting in 2011. Future Lynx will enter operational service in 2014 with the UK Army and 2015 with the Royal Navy and is planned to remain in service for 30 years."
i.e. Future Lynx for the AAC
"In June 2006, AgustaWestland announced the award of the contract by the UK MoD for 70 Future Lynx helicopters, 40 for the Army and 30 for the Navy. The contract also provides an option for a further ten aircraft, five for the Army and five for the Navy.
The first flight of the Future Lynx helicopter will take place in late 2009 with first deliveries starting in 2011. Future Lynx will enter operational service in 2014 with the UK Army and 2015 with the Royal Navy and is planned to remain in service for 30 years."
Not likely given today's pressures.
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Would cancellation be a bad thing for the Army, since it's not really what's needed anyway?
I'm sure spending only half the vast costs of this programme would still be enough to equip with a more suitable off the shelf type.
(Let the Navy get on with their SCMR)
I'm sure spending only half the vast costs of this programme would still be enough to equip with a more suitable off the shelf type.
(Let the Navy get on with their SCMR)
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It was a good idea at the time. MoD had no dosh, we needed a Lynx replacement fairly quickly, Wastelands said they had a solution to all our woes.
Trouble is, its now going to cost us a hell of a lot more than they originally quoted and it is as suitable and useful as a Reliant Robin doing the Paris-Dakar.....in reverse.
Ground taxiable?
Bowman compatable?
Reasonable rear capacity?
Cheap?
Value for money?
HUD?
Westlands haste in trying to give us something they thought we wanted and offering it at bargain basement prices lured the MoD up the alley of not putting the new aircraft up for open tender. Certain French companies were quite rightly a bit peeved.
As it happens, BRH will end up being as, if not more expensive than an off the shelf alternative but with a lesser capability.
With the money we are potentially going to spend, we could have paid off every member of Westlands with a large redundancy, bought an off the shelf and still saved a couple of quid.
Trouble is, its now going to cost us a hell of a lot more than they originally quoted and it is as suitable and useful as a Reliant Robin doing the Paris-Dakar.....in reverse.
Ground taxiable?
Bowman compatable?
Reasonable rear capacity?
Cheap?
Value for money?
HUD?
Westlands haste in trying to give us something they thought we wanted and offering it at bargain basement prices lured the MoD up the alley of not putting the new aircraft up for open tender. Certain French companies were quite rightly a bit peeved.
As it happens, BRH will end up being as, if not more expensive than an off the shelf alternative but with a lesser capability.
With the money we are potentially going to spend, we could have paid off every member of Westlands with a large redundancy, bought an off the shelf and still saved a couple of quid.
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Not necessarily, they could still build the WS-70 Black Hawk's under license.
Granted they won't gain the ĢĢ from Design & Development, but on the flip side, they can move quickly to ripping us off for the spares
Granted they won't gain the ĢĢ from Design & Development, but on the flip side, they can move quickly to ripping us off for the spares
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So am I right when I read between the lines on the last two posts?
Were not having BRH in the current form but in a form with similar undercarriage to the Apache? Although none of this is in the public area or any further than your two desks?
Were not having BRH in the current form but in a form with similar undercarriage to the Apache? Although none of this is in the public area or any further than your two desks?
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Were not having BRH in the current form but in a form with similar undercarriage to the Apache? Although none of this is in the public area or any further than your two desks?
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Wastelands
Hi all, first post, so be gentle. Speaking to a nice man from the south west whilst at the bash this weekend, he said that all military types would be made at yeovil, whilst finmecanica would be responsible for civilian types. Interestingly, this might open up several assembly lines of different aircraft that are, maybe, more palletable for the army/navy and offer a solution to the holders of the purse strings at UK Plc.
Phew!
Phew!
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From wikipedia
The Wildcat (Felis silvestris), The Wildcat is extremely timid. It avoids coming too close to human settlements. It lives solitarily and holds a territory of about 3 kmē
Sounds a good name though. Didn't the FAA operate wildcats during the war?
www.wildcathelicopters.com
The Wildcat (Felis silvestris), The Wildcat is extremely timid. It avoids coming too close to human settlements. It lives solitarily and holds a territory of about 3 kmē
Sounds a good name though. Didn't the FAA operate wildcats during the war?
www.wildcathelicopters.com
