Chavez Vows Revenge for Falklands War
"There's mineral rights in them thar waters ye know"
Clearly then the US will invade as that's what the Americans do. NK may be coming off the axis of evil list if they give up the nukes, leaving a spot for the Malvinas/Falklands.
Clearly then the US will invade as that's what the Americans do. NK may be coming off the axis of evil list if they give up the nukes, leaving a spot for the Malvinas/Falklands.
Since when did the Falklands/Malvina become Britain?
Dependent territories perhaps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain
Dependent territories perhaps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain
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The Falkland Islands is an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom.
The Islands are internally self-governing with the exception of defence and foreign affairs, which remain the responsibility of the British Government. The Governor formally exercises executive authority on behalf of Her Majesty’s Government, although, in practice, policy decisions are made by the elected members of the Government.
The Islands are internally self-governing with the exception of defence and foreign affairs, which remain the responsibility of the British Government. The Governor formally exercises executive authority on behalf of Her Majesty’s Government, although, in practice, policy decisions are made by the elected members of the Government.
It's a tad helpful if you find the factually relevant information rather than just information that "seems" to prove your point...
PS: Great Britain = United Kingdom... In case you were confused...
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one T boat and some Typhoons with associated tanking would give pause for thought. They'd have to get their men ashore by water or parachute...
Mind you I suppose they could just blockade the place.Still, be interesting to see how we would get feet back on the ground if the air cover described in the first post on this thread is effective
PS: Great Britain = United Kingdom... In case you were confused...
Well no, actually.
United Kingdon = Great Britain (England, Scotland and wales) + N. Ireland.
I had great difficulty explaining the nuances of the England/GB/UK terminology as the UK delegate to one of the FAI Commisions.
It helped explaining that the 'Great' bit was to differentiate from 'Lesser' Britain, the NW bit of froggyland, rather than being the best country in the world (which was to be taken as implicit, and not needed in the name)..
Well no, actually.
United Kingdon = Great Britain (England, Scotland and wales) + N. Ireland.
I had great difficulty explaining the nuances of the England/GB/UK terminology as the UK delegate to one of the FAI Commisions.
It helped explaining that the 'Great' bit was to differentiate from 'Lesser' Britain, the NW bit of froggyland, rather than being the best country in the world (which was to be taken as implicit, and not needed in the name)..
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West Coast:
Read what you originally wrote... Please tell me you aren't silly enough to claim that an "overseas territory of the United Kingdom" could replace NK in the "Axis of Evil"...
Read what you originally wrote... Please tell me you aren't silly enough to claim that an "overseas territory of the United Kingdom" could replace NK in the "Axis of Evil"...
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Great Britain = United Kingdom... In case you were confused...
Err.....no, actually. The United Kingdom consists of Great Britain AND Northern Ireland.....unless something has changed since I woz @ skool...many years ago, admittedly!
Great Britain = United Kingdom... In case you were confused...
Err.....no, actually. The United Kingdom consists of Great Britain AND Northern Ireland.....unless something has changed since I woz @ skool...many years ago, admittedly!
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Great Britain = United Kingdom
Now what did we do with those Sea Harriers? Oh! 
Seriously it is unlikely anything could happen except as a result of gross stupidity by the UK, like withdrawing the Falklands garrison.
Back to Chavez - what do Brazil, Chile etc make of him?
Seriously it is unlikely anything could happen except as a result of gross stupidity by the UK, like withdrawing the Falklands garrison.
Back to Chavez - what do Brazil, Chile etc make of him?
IIRC, the Chileans aren't that keen. Chavez supports Bolivian claims for access to the sea, which would involve the creation of a corridor to the Pacific through Chilean territory.
Relations between Brazil and Venezuela appear to be worsening. There's a dispute over Mercosur membership between the two - Venezuela wants to become a member, but this needs the Brazilian senate to ratify the decision; The Brazilian senate feels that Venezuela hasn't yet met the entry conditions. Chavez has put his teddy on R5 to move from its holding position in the pram and is threatening to withdraw from Mercosur if the Brazilians don't give him what he wants. He's also unhappy that the Brazilian senate was a tad critical of his banning of the opposition TV station, while Brazilian industrialists have, in effect, warned the government to trust Chavez no further than they can throw him.
The TV dispute led to Chavez saying something rather rude about the Brazilian senators (I forget what), and this led to the ambassador being called in for a no coffee, no Ferrero Rocher chat with the Brazilian foreign minister.
Relations between Brazil and Venezuela appear to be worsening. There's a dispute over Mercosur membership between the two - Venezuela wants to become a member, but this needs the Brazilian senate to ratify the decision; The Brazilian senate feels that Venezuela hasn't yet met the entry conditions. Chavez has put his teddy on R5 to move from its holding position in the pram and is threatening to withdraw from Mercosur if the Brazilians don't give him what he wants. He's also unhappy that the Brazilian senate was a tad critical of his banning of the opposition TV station, while Brazilian industrialists have, in effect, warned the government to trust Chavez no further than they can throw him.
The TV dispute led to Chavez saying something rather rude about the Brazilian senators (I forget what), and this led to the ambassador being called in for a no coffee, no Ferrero Rocher chat with the Brazilian foreign minister.
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It will be bloody years before the Typhoon ends up at MPA. Why not buff up the F3 force for now to give a message to the numpty we mean business.
4 Tornado F3s and 1 Tanker is a F'ing lot of good to a load of Argies and Venezuelans attack the Islands plus or minus a Type 42 or 23.
Won't we be in the same situation as last time? Takes weeks for us to get there by ship. How many forces are stationed there for defence of the islands if the **** hits the fan?
going back to SHAR, why on earth didn't we fund a programme similar to the AV-8B+ where the GR9 upgrade could have included a new nose with the Blue Vixen radar fitted inside together with associated avionics fit. That way we would only have one type of Harrier, but both Ground attack and a very capable Air-Air platform all in one.
Or was this too complicated?
4 Tornado F3s and 1 Tanker is a F'ing lot of good to a load of Argies and Venezuelans attack the Islands plus or minus a Type 42 or 23.
Won't we be in the same situation as last time? Takes weeks for us to get there by ship. How many forces are stationed there for defence of the islands if the **** hits the fan?
going back to SHAR, why on earth didn't we fund a programme similar to the AV-8B+ where the GR9 upgrade could have included a new nose with the Blue Vixen radar fitted inside together with associated avionics fit. That way we would only have one type of Harrier, but both Ground attack and a very capable Air-Air platform all in one.
Or was this too complicated?
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The AV-8B / GR5/7/9 is a very space-limited, weight critical aircraft, and fitting the APG-65 radar meant removal of most of the specialized attack avionics (especially the "night attack" equipment.
That is why the USMC had 27 new-build B+ and 72 conversions to B+ done (last delivered 2003), but kept 61 B(NA) as non-radar versions.
Yes, money was a consideration, but it could have been found if the USMC really wanted it... especially after 9/11/2001.
That is why the USMC had 27 new-build B+ and 72 conversions to B+ done (last delivered 2003), but kept 61 B(NA) as non-radar versions.
Yes, money was a consideration, but it could have been found if the USMC really wanted it... especially after 9/11/2001.
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Back to Chavez - what do Brazil, Chile etc make of him?
It would mean too, effectively, the end to any South American alliances and he'd have a world of **** on his doorstep. At the moment, he has commonality with the rest of them down there, in that they all dislike the US. Also, he has enough wealth under Venezuala to be bothered about upsetting the balance of things down there. If the Argies had the FI, they'd be one step closer to getting their own oil supply. At the moment, Chavez does good business in selling to them.. why would he want to stop that and have a competitor on his doorstep at the same time? It'd be like el Fayed helping Mr Debenham fill out a Application for Planning Approval in Knightsbridge.
Disclaimer: Having said that, he is of course, completely demented, so all bets are off.
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The Argentinians already have their own oil supply from the east coast and elsewhere. Not sure how many buckets they've got left though.
Didn't someone once suggest giving them West Falkland and keeping East Falkland for those of Bristish origin? No? Well I'm suggesting it now. It's only fair. How would we feel if they claimed the Isle of Wight?
Didn't someone once suggest giving them West Falkland and keeping East Falkland for those of Bristish origin? No? Well I'm suggesting it now. It's only fair. How would we feel if they claimed the Isle of Wight?
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"Didn't someone once suggest giving them West Falkland and keeping East Falkland for those of Bristish origin? No? Well I'm suggesting it now."
who ever suggested it was an idiot
1. you've just handed them the perfect staging post to invade the rest of the islands
2. what about the wishes of the 150 people who live there?, at what numerical threshhold does it become right to force people to become part of a country they want nothing to do with
who ever suggested it was an idiot
1. you've just handed them the perfect staging post to invade the rest of the islands
2. what about the wishes of the 150 people who live there?, at what numerical threshhold does it become right to force people to become part of a country they want nothing to do with