Using a Chute to stop
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From: Peripatetic
Did the F-111 deploy a chute?
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From: Wildest Surrey
Tupolev 104 and 124 both had brake chutes as well as the Caravelle. As for deploying before touchdown; Mig 29s seem to do this as normal. (NB BEA Tridents were cleared to engage reverse thrust before touchdown but that's another story)
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From: UK
See here for an amusing Lightning chute story by Roland Beamont.
I think I've read that XH558 will not require the chute to stop at it's new reduced weights, but that it will still be carried for emergency use. Should make airshow trips a bit easier!
I think I've read that XH558 will not require the chute to stop at it's new reduced weights, but that it will still be carried for emergency use. Should make airshow trips a bit easier!
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From: Lancashire
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From: Oxfordshire
TSR2 Chute
The TSR2 had a reefed chute. Efficiency of the chute as a slowing device is obviously related to V squared. If you pop a big one out at high landing speeds, it would need to be of v strong stuff. So TSR2 designers had a big chute which was "reefed" on initial op and at some lower-than touchdown-speed, was unreefed and allowed to develop its full area. (Not sure how the auto-reefing bit worked)
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From: Chasing Dreams
It was also used to get the Victor out of a super stall.
High T-tail blocked by the main plane in a stall. No control response from the elevators unable to recover. Popping the chute would drop the nose allowing undisturbed air over the tail and the controls would respond again.
Sadly a couple of crews were lost before this was discovered.
High T-tail blocked by the main plane in a stall. No control response from the elevators unable to recover. Popping the chute would drop the nose allowing undisturbed air over the tail and the controls would respond again.
Sadly a couple of crews were lost before this was discovered.
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From: It wasn't me, I wasn't there, wrong country ;-)
Cutes as air brakes
TU104's normal ops. LHR & LGW airport staff retrieved chutes, flying spanner stowed new chute & took used one home to get repacked. Some times, if I had time, would help the spanner onload new chute, 'twas fun for a lad.
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From: Surrey Hills
The F-117A Nighthawk uses a chute because it doesn't have any flaps.
From US Air Force Technology.....
" The elevons do not act as flaps to reduce the rate of descent for touchdown, so the landing speed of the F-117A is high, at about 180mph to 190mph, and a drag parachute is used."
I always wondered what flaps did. I thought the pilot controlled the rate of descent.
Aviate1138
From US Air Force Technology.....
" The elevons do not act as flaps to reduce the rate of descent for touchdown, so the landing speed of the F-117A is high, at about 180mph to 190mph, and a drag parachute is used."
I always wondered what flaps did. I thought the pilot controlled the rate of descent.
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From: land of the clanger
In the second world war pilots of damaged B17s used to get the waist gunners to stream their personal chutes out through the gun ports (with them anchored to the aircraft not themselves) to help slow them down incase the brakes weren't working properly. Bit heath robinson but it helped apparently.
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I always wondered what flaps did. I thought the pilot controlled the rate of descent.
