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Does anyone know where the tradition of green entries in logbooks for operational sorties started? And does everyone do it still today?
I've seen logbooks from WW2 that didn't have any green writing, so perhaps it's a recent thing?
I've seen logbooks from WW2 that didn't have any green writing, so perhaps it's a recent thing?
If you look at logbooks from the Second World War the nighttime operational entries tended to be in red. Whether this is because they're for ops of for night, I'm not sure. Could green have been introduced for daytime operational sorties?
Looking at Pete Squires' logbook at the IWM exhibition, for his sorties during the Falklands War, his entires are in green so it dates back to at least 1982.
Looking at Pete Squires' logbook at the IWM exhibition, for his sorties during the Falklands War, his entires are in green so it dates back to at least 1982.
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Despite flying in 3 major operations/conflicts, I have never been permitted to write entries in green. I don't know of any Army pilots who have been permitted to continue this 'tradition' in the last ten years or so and would be interested to know the official party line, if there is one.
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I have a feeling that 'green' entries are a bit of a myth.
All the wartime logbooks I've seen only have blue or blue/black for normal sorties and red for operational sorties.
Similarly, a fair while before the South Atlantic war, some of the WIWOL QFIs had 'live QRA(I)' sorties in their logbooks in red.
All the wartime logbooks I've seen only have blue or blue/black for normal sorties and red for operational sorties.
Similarly, a fair while before the South Atlantic war, some of the WIWOL QFIs had 'live QRA(I)' sorties in their logbooks in red.
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Never heard of it before GW 1 - in previous unpleasantnesses one kept a note in one of the spare columns on the RH page of the logbook ....
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I always thought that back in the 50's and 60's that Green entries were for a "Good Show" type of thing and that Black entries were for a "Bad Show" type of thing. Or am I confusing the issue with something else?
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I hope that this is relevant to the discussion.
I do not know when the green entries were initiated but my father told me that when he was informed of his, it was so new that they did not believe at first that it was to be written in green ink, which it was. I quote from the logbooks which I inherited. The authority suggests to me that it was started in October 1944.
Green Endorsement
"159460 F/Lt G Fraser is commended for having flown, under the difficult conditions peculiar to South East Asia, 1,000 hours on Single Engine aircraft without an avoidable accident."
authority AMO A 10/44 22.10.45
I do not know when the green entries were initiated but my father told me that when he was informed of his, it was so new that they did not believe at first that it was to be written in green ink, which it was. I quote from the logbooks which I inherited. The authority suggests to me that it was started in October 1944.
Green Endorsement
"159460 F/Lt G Fraser is commended for having flown, under the difficult conditions peculiar to South East Asia, 1,000 hours on Single Engine aircraft without an avoidable accident."
authority AMO A 10/44 22.10.45
Ken F
I'm not sure that we're talking about the same thing here. Green Endorsements as in a pat on the back from a third party, or a green entry that the log book holder enters themselves to record an 'operational sortie'.
Just to cloud the issue further, I know of folk who have done it in red.
I'm not sure that we're talking about the same thing here. Green Endorsements as in a pat on the back from a third party, or a green entry that the log book holder enters themselves to record an 'operational sortie'.
Just to cloud the issue further, I know of folk who have done it in red.
VinRouge.
The GR1 unit actualy sent a certain F3 Sqn a bottle of Tipex and some black pens. As they hadn't been into Iraq. The other thing which was the in at the time, was that on any F3 Sqn print in the Mess, was to draw a big arrow with North annotated pointing towards the rear of said F3.
Ivor
The GR1 unit actualy sent a certain F3 Sqn a bottle of Tipex and some black pens. As they hadn't been into Iraq. The other thing which was the in at the time, was that on any F3 Sqn print in the Mess, was to draw a big arrow with North annotated pointing towards the rear of said F3.
Ivor
