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2007 Puma Crash, Enquiry and Inquest (Merged)

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Old 5th Nov 2009, 11:43
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Of the soldier, saturday night in Aldershot. Sunday papers..... "Lunatic squaddies in mass brawl, witnesses say they should be locked up forever".
There was a time when the CO would have an account of the damage, march in the guilty parties, apportion an equal cash hit as a fine and march em out again. Then pay the damages. The argument is as Jayteeto sauggests: how can you develop the 'kill it quick and clean' mindset, then turn it off for Saturday on the high street?

Not sure it transposes so well to Catterick though.

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The media keep referring to RAF 'Experts' having conducted an inquiry with the North Yorkshire Police. As I understand it, the Service Enquiry hasn’t stood up yet. Did the RAF provide SME advice to the Police or did they have their own guys?
The RAF BOI with AAIB assistance was stood down when the inquiry considered criminal proceedings might be involved. The police then conducted a criminal inquiry, they asked the AAIB to assist, but the AAIB refused as they are a safety organisation, who does not allocate blame. The police then asked the Navy, who conducted the technical part of the police inquiry. (The Navy are always happy to **** the RAF!)
Now the inquest is over, and the RAF chiefs have made their decision on any military prosecutions, one assumes the BOI will resume to finish its work.
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Old 5th Nov 2009, 12:47
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Almost correct Si, but not quite.

The MOD offered RNFSAIC assistance to the NY Police, which was accepted. Plus, the MOD provided 2 SMEs, a Puma Pilot and Puma Nav, to assist the police. They gave evidence at the inquest.

I do take exeption to your The Navy are always happy to **** the RAF comment. RNFSAIC were totally impartial and did nothing or said nothing that could be interpreted as ****ing the RAF.
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Old 5th Nov 2009, 12:57
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I apologise for any offence caused, it was a feeble attempt at humour. I have the utmost respect for the work of RNFSAIC
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Old 5th Nov 2009, 17:01
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MS,

Any particular reason why the RN used only a Pilot/Nav as SMEs?
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Old 5th Nov 2009, 19:56
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The RN didn't! The pilot & Nav were working for the NY Police, not RNFSAIC.
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SiClick said at Post #582

"Now the inquest is over and the RAF Chiefs have made their decisions on any military prosecutions, one assumes the BOI will resume its work."

It may well be, in the light of the evidence given at the Inquest, that further investigation is deemed necessary in respect of certain aspects of Command and Operating procedures and compliance therewith. This could entail re - convening the BOI with a more Senior President and expanded Terms of Reference if that is the case.

It is possible, therefore, that some time may elapse before the findings of the BOI can be published, as they would be held in abeyance until any subsequent Disciplinary or Administrative Action had been completed.
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Old 17th Dec 2011, 22:20
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Surprised no-one's picked up on this:
BBC News - RAF helicopter crash co-pilot spared jail
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Old 17th Dec 2011, 23:25
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It was, two separate threads, and both have vanished
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Old 19th Dec 2011, 00:07
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Yeah, just read that on "another" thread.
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