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Thanks dad!
Well i guess that sums it it pretty well then folks!
Although there is, Tinfoil now theres a thought.
That would give a better radar signature.
Either that or it might just dazzle ya.
Well i guess that sums it it pretty well then folks! Although there is, Tinfoil now theres a thought.
That would give a better radar signature.
Either that or it might just dazzle ya.
GP to understand if you will be spotted by radar
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Gyrocopters are toys for the boys and should not be allowed to operate in the LFS as they are a nuisance - much like the drivers of hairdresser cars with 6" exhaust pipes and 200db sound systems who cruise the high streets pissing off the public - sod off into the countryside and keep out of harms way and we won't have to spend millions of taxpayers money on kit trying to avoid you
If you are so keen to fly, do it properly, join the military and enjoy that great jet noise - the Sound of Freedom!
If you are so keen to fly, do it properly, join the military and enjoy that great jet noise - the Sound of Freedom!
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If you are so keen to fly, do it properly, join the military and enjoy that great jet noise - the Sound of Freedom!
I look forward to seeing aircrerw establisment rising to the thousands to accomodate all these sunday flyers.
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GP, if you are still concerned about being tonked by a Fast Jet you might consider making use of the CANP system. Put simply, you notify the low flying booking cell at RAF Wittering who then promulgate a warning to all crews booking into the LFS to look out for you. The contact details and more information are available at http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/64/VFR_Guide_2007.pdf on page 35 (Low-Level Civil Aircraft Notification Procedures (CANP)).
Hope this helps.
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Hope this helps.
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Sound advice from BluntM8 - forewarned is fore-armed. CANP is a criminally under-used system.
Buoy15 - get a grip. The LFS is the bulk of the 'countryside'. Where do you expect them to go? GA pilots have as much right to be there as you do and if all pilots follow the rules (including filing a CANP) it should all work. Last time I looked this was a free country. Plan/outbrief thoroughly, avoid know trouble spots where possible and look out of the window.
Buoy15 - get a grip. The LFS is the bulk of the 'countryside'. Where do you expect them to go? GA pilots have as much right to be there as you do and if all pilots follow the rules (including filing a CANP) it should all work. Last time I looked this was a free country. Plan/outbrief thoroughly, avoid know trouble spots where possible and look out of the window.
GyroPilot - ignore boy15, he's merely some sort of wireless operator in some old aeroplane with more navigators than engines....
Very difficult indeed for you to fly in conditions where you will be conspicuous to low level military traffic - have you had a look at the CAA's Safety Sense Leaflet 18 (it's in LASORS)? It might give you some useful tips.
Very difficult indeed for you to fly in conditions where you will be conspicuous to low level military traffic - have you had a look at the CAA's Safety Sense Leaflet 18 (it's in LASORS)? It might give you some useful tips.
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Dont make the mistake of painting your toys yellow and black, you will never be seen again.
I would though consider having a single yellow rotor blade, they work very well at aiding conspicu.... being seen!!
I would though consider having a single yellow rotor blade, they work very well at aiding conspicu.... being seen!!
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Tiger Mate
Already taken that option a few months ago!
Have painted 33 ft rotor Orange in 3 bands on each and pusher prop 3 tips also painted, all in day glo orange.
Great minds think alike......
Have painted 33 ft rotor Orange in 3 bands on each and pusher prop 3 tips also painted, all in day glo orange.
Great minds think alike......
Hi,
Reminds me of the situation described by a friend of mine who works on container ships. They had a scheme whereby they were giving away corner-cube radar reflectors at the Chinese ports serving very small, local fishing vessels in the desperate hope that they'd start using them. Running into small coastal fishing vessels (even sampans) at night was becoming habit-forming, and of course the container ship crews often didn't have the slightest idea it'd happened.
I presume there's some suitably modified analog of this for aircraft.
Phil
Reminds me of the situation described by a friend of mine who works on container ships. They had a scheme whereby they were giving away corner-cube radar reflectors at the Chinese ports serving very small, local fishing vessels in the desperate hope that they'd start using them. Running into small coastal fishing vessels (even sampans) at night was becoming habit-forming, and of course the container ship crews often didn't have the slightest idea it'd happened.
I presume there's some suitably modified analog of this for aircraft.
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GP,
Probably too late for you now but, rather than contrasting colours on ALL blades, a single contrast blade, as has already been mentioned (as per RAF SAR Sea Kings) works exceeding well due to the human eye's lower perceived rotor speed.
Problems can occur with the extra paint weight on a single blade causing rotor imbalance and manufacturing 'issues' (some reasons for comercial non-use). I've no doubt that your rotor speed will be a factor as well in relation to the eye's persistance of vision.
Small visual 'targets' such as microlights and Gyros ARE difficult to aquire visually due to various factors such as colour, size, relative speed etc, even from a low speed platform (such as another helicopter). A high speed FJ 'ups the odds' significantly. Worth considering avoiding obvious 'threat' areas and height bands if the choice available. Works for military crews as well - avoids us loosing no claims bonus!
Lookout and fly accurately bloggs.
RS15....and a bit
Probably too late for you now but, rather than contrasting colours on ALL blades, a single contrast blade, as has already been mentioned (as per RAF SAR Sea Kings) works exceeding well due to the human eye's lower perceived rotor speed.
Problems can occur with the extra paint weight on a single blade causing rotor imbalance and manufacturing 'issues' (some reasons for comercial non-use). I've no doubt that your rotor speed will be a factor as well in relation to the eye's persistance of vision.
Small visual 'targets' such as microlights and Gyros ARE difficult to aquire visually due to various factors such as colour, size, relative speed etc, even from a low speed platform (such as another helicopter). A high speed FJ 'ups the odds' significantly. Worth considering avoiding obvious 'threat' areas and height bands if the choice available. Works for military crews as well - avoids us loosing no claims bonus!
Lookout and fly accurately bloggs.
RS15....and a bit
