Transfering From Aac To Raf

[northern_one]

Hi all,

I am after some info or help if possible. I am looking to transfer from the AAC into the RAF as a weopan system operator (crewman) on rotary. I am currently employed in this role within the AAC (7 years army, 4 years crewman) but want to transfer over. I am hitting a huge brick wall talking to my Career managers. Any advice or help on where to look, go or who to speak to would be very much appreciated.

Thanks for your time

[FayeDeck]

Mate, try and talk to a chap by the initials PB who was the master rear crewman recently, I am sure he will be a source of much knowledge on this subject. Try Avn Stds at MW for him or at least a forwarding number.

Failing that ask for a recruiting officer at RAF Innsworth from Mil Dir Enq. I am sure that anyone in that Dept would be able to give you the person you need to speak to.

I had a chat / interview a while back and they were very efficient and welcoming.............did'nt offer me a job mind..........but then I am a clown!! (They did really).

Good Luck.

[northern_one]

thanks

Thanks guys for the info and advice. I will get in touch with PB on monday and see what info he can pass on he seems to know his stuff.

I'll also speak to the AFCO this week although the RAF guy i spoke to the other day couldnt really help much but i'll keep badgering.

I know it's quiet hard a friend of min (PH) did it a couple of years back and has told me numerous times its the best thing he has ever done. Cant seem to track him down though, think hes 28 on merlins.

Anyway thanks again for the help and ill see where i get to. Got to be a step up from mighty lynx any how!

[Tracer Bullet]

Jump ship now!

Firstly you have to make sure your academic qualifications are high enough. From what I have been told you will need GCSE grade C or above in Maths, English and a Science. Without these the door will remain firmly closed. I spoke to a crewman from 230 last week and he seems to think that the Master Crewman on the squadron was a good place to start your enquirees.

Best of luck and see you on the otherside!

[charliegolf]

Thread creep......

What's a Master Crewman? Not a title/appointment I remember from the 80s.

CG

[TheWizard]

Easy!

What's a Master Crewman?

There is no such thing in the RAF. The confusion may lie with the rank of Master Aircrew (MACr) which is the aircrew equivalent of Warrant Officer. A WSOP (Crewman) can hold that rank on a Sqn.
To further confuse matters a helicopter sqn will usually have a number of Flights, which will have a crewman section headed up by a Master. In overall charge of the crewmen may be a senior Master Aircrew who is empowered and will be in place of a Commissioned crewman.
See it's easy really.....
ps Ps Northern One if PH is ex RGJ then he is indeed on 28 but about to go for a suntan

[helidriver]

Just to confuse matters even more, the AAC call their senior rearcrewman (Aviation Crewman (ACM in new money) the Master Rearcrewman. He is part of Army Flight Standards and Flight Safety Inspectorate (AFSSI) based at Middle Wallop. Incidentally, PB is no longer in post and I'm not sure the incumbent would be that informed. Remember, considering JPA nightmares, you will have to leave and re-join, therefore not a transfer, so make sure all your pension rights are carried across.

Oh, and don't forget your roots; 'step up from the Lynx' indeed, and enjoy the nylon uniform sideways walking one!

Good luck fella!

h

[northern_one]

wizard, that is indeed the PH i refer to.
Helidriver, all is said tongue in cheek ha ha.

Cheers again guys

[contactin]

Have you considered transferring to the Navy as Commando Aircrew?

[coolblackcat]

Well, assuming that you have all the basic requirements (age, GCSE qualifications, medical, etc), I would find it hard to believe if the RAF rejected you; having 11 years of WSOp (or equiv) work experience should be more than enough... I would think.

[Kitbag]

Maybe it should read 7 years in the army, 4 of those as crewman?

[Vie sans frontieres]

The RAF's logic is such that with all that helicopter time he's bound to end up looking at blibs and blobs on a Nimrod.

[Could be the last?]

Northern One,

If you want accurate info then PM me.

[Kitbag]

Oops AIDU, feel a prat because you missed the obvious?

Kn*b

[coolblackcat]

The RAF's logic is such that with all that helicopter time he's bound to end up looking at blibs and blobs on a Nimrod.

The correct and tecnical term used by Engineers is "Nobs and Bobs"... Come on man; use proper English.

[coolblackcat]

By mentioning "Engineers" I didn't mean that he would be doing any Engineering work (He would be a WSOp or WSO). I just said that Engineers call them "Nobs and Bobs", as Engineers do have to work with that sort of equipment to produce or fix it. Any way, I was just messing around.
Now, Please try harder next time you feel like critizicing on me; you're loosing practice.

[Wader2]

Originally Posted by egdg

Try an AFCO, it may be you have to leave the army before joining the RAF, the guys at the AFCO are fully spammed up on it all.

Northern One, you will not have to leave Betty's employ. Now they might suggest that there are all sorts of problems; there are. You will leave a hole in their very nice manning plot.

I know someone whom the Army really tried to stiff. They said he would have to pay for training recently received, buy himself out etc etc. He checked the rules and found it was bt.

He came across, got commissioned and now, 6 years later, is a sqn ldr and senior to some of the green jobs who used to be his bosses.

You have what it takes, you pass the course, the world opens. At 24 why do you want to be a WSOp? Why not go for pilot or WSO?