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Old 5th Aug 2007, 22:04
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rudekid; correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to be questioning chevvron's credentials. He gained his CAA ATCO Licence (a quaint civvy concept for qualification) at the same time as me in 1972. Unlike me, he stuck at it and made it his career. When did you pass for yours?
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Old 5th Aug 2007, 23:52
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Originally Posted by GBZ
Forgive me if I'm being thick here but where is the "already established CAS" that leads to Scampton that could contain a decompression descent and maintain separation from traffic in Class G?
Treat it like a Doncaster / Humberside arrival, following those airways that run east / west which could have linked with a CTR centred around XP.

Originally Posted by niknak
How many of you were incovenienced by this obviously irritable piece of CAS?......................
The consequences to the parachute people at Hibaldstow
????? Draw a line LESTA - EGXP, make it 10 miles wide and make the base level FL50. You may wish to re-think your answer.

Originally Posted by chevvron
'cos SVFR clearances are allowed in CAS-T.
Only if that CAS-T is a CTR, not the airway portion nor any form of CTA.

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Old 6th Aug 2007, 08:52
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GBZ

Congratulations to you both on your qualifications. I'm sure his credentials are immaculate...

Sadly, the information he is stating as fact is patently incorrect.

I'm not commenting on the validity of special use airspace, CAS-T, RLLC or others. I'm personally ambivalent about it's implementation, I can see clearly how it would cause considerable irritation over the top of an active parachute centre. However, this is not why I replied to the thread...

Chilli - it's 32 Sqdn at Northolt who actually request this airspace; if you want to whinge, try them for starters.
Is an incorrect statement. Tombstone is equally wrong in his support, although possibly correct in his assertions about Lincolnshire

ATCO17, who incidentally may have a similar qualifications to your own much vaunted ones, has quoted correctly as to the processes employed in
securing this airspace. Maybe the processes your colleagues describe were correct in 1972, but I can absolutely assure you that this not the case now. In this instance, my credentials are immaculate!

Thanking for jumping to the assistance of your colleague. Most of my posts on this thread are posted in banter...But that's a quaint military concept of humour, when do you pass for yours?
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Old 6th Aug 2007, 09:05
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Chilli Monster, thanks for answering the first part. What about the contingency for decompression, though? Also, do you Mil chaps plan for RCF?

rudekid, congratulations on your skill at disguising the banter, .

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Old 6th Aug 2007, 09:29
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What about the contingency for decompression
Highest base of CAS in that area is FL105, by which time the aircraft would have been descending into the established XP CTR anyway - no decompression problem.
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Old 6th Aug 2007, 10:10
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GBZ

Now you're getting into the spirit....
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Old 24th Aug 2007, 16:42
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Requesting establishment of CAS(T)

Rudekid and ATCO17 are correct....The request for the establishment of CAS(T) is the responsibility of the AIRCRAFT OPERATOR, which is not always 32 SQn.
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