Quickest from brakes off to 1000' agl?
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Dunno, y'know....an empty Albert Mk1, with not much fuel, using the obstacle clearance Tac T/O technique, would get there PDQ. Mk5 probably a damn sight quicker - but they weren't around in the 70s...
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Mighty Hunter @ Kef with the usual headwind, airborne and climbing before the end of the piano keys, the commissary would have needed to be light on ration supplies though
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I remember being very impressed by an advert for the F15, pointing out that the F15 was faster from brakes off to 70,000' than a Saturn V moonshot
The Saturn V had the edge after this...
The Saturn V had the edge after this...
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Another vote for the winch-launched Glider. Put side by side with a conventional, powered aircraft requiring a runway it will have reached 1000ft probably by the time the powered aircraft rotates.
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My God, what have I started!!!?! Some of the above are ruled out because they weren't in RAF service. The winch launched gliders aren't allowed I'm afraid - I'm sorry I should've said "under its own power". 4PON4PIN is the only one to agree with what I was told, yes, that well known STOL aircraft, the Andover. I doubted it myself at first but apparently the figures around at the time showed that the Andover was quickest out of the blocks and up to 1000' agl. Beyond that, all manner of other types would whizz on past upwards. Anyone got any clues as to where one can dig out the figures to either confirm or deny this claim?
I'm rather disappointed that you should leave it so late to clarify the parameters, Il Duce. Still, it made for an interesting debate, thanks.
Andover, eh? My money would still be on the T21.
Andover, eh? My money would still be on the T21.
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Sorry to butt in but could you give this a go?
Any RAF aircraft, current or past that could get airborne off Manchester Rwy 23 and get to FL 410 by overhead Birmingham airport? The parameters are: A full pay / bomb load, 1/4 fuel and fixed wing. Gliders (the 410 bit should screw this anyway, ditto helicopters!) and missiles are excluded. The flight path is ahead to 5 miles then direct which should rule out those planning via Land's End (assuming the fuel didn't give out)!
As an exercise, any military aircraft, F16 etc but with the same parameters?
There is at least one civi aircraft that can!
Any RAF aircraft, current or past that could get airborne off Manchester Rwy 23 and get to FL 410 by overhead Birmingham airport? The parameters are: A full pay / bomb load, 1/4 fuel and fixed wing. Gliders (the 410 bit should screw this anyway, ditto helicopters!) and missiles are excluded. The flight path is ahead to 5 miles then direct which should rule out those planning via Land's End (assuming the fuel didn't give out)!
As an exercise, any military aircraft, F16 etc but with the same parameters?
There is at least one civi aircraft that can!
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The RNZAF Andover drivers used to drag out the "we're fastest to 1000ft" line at airshows as well. Great pick-up line, lads!!! Nothing like desperation coming across the PA....
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I seem to remember that in a Mk 2 Shacklebomber, with little fuel, using the water meth (for the full 5 minutes), we were pretty quick to 1500ft. I must admit though that after initial period of shake rattle an' roll everything that followed was verrrrrry slow 
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I seem to recall a runway in New Guinea that has a 1000' drop right at the end, therefore the Caribou a few seconds after rotate probably holds the honour. Can't remember which town/village though.