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Valedictory Letters - Oh sorry, here's a certificate instead

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Old 31st Oct 2007, 18:36
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goudie, not sure of the relevance of Gus Walker to valedictory letters but you could start a new thread - Gus Walker. I am sure it would run and run.
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Old 31st Oct 2007, 18:50
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How about a nice focus working group to find out why our people feel undervalued? Let's drill down and take this forward.

Then again, maybe not.
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Old 31st Oct 2007, 19:10
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I have not read the full thread, but after leaving, having served 20 odd years, i did not recieve a fecking thing!!! No letter, nothing!! Was i supposed to apply for it?? Serious enquirey, if any blunties are in the know, I would appreciate it. Thanks
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Old 31st Oct 2007, 19:46
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Tigs, your PSF should have pinged your chain of command and joed your sqn cdr or flt cdr to do the draft. It should then have winged its way back up the tree to the AOC.

Now in my case my sqn cdr anticipated the request and got me to provide the background for his draft. Remarkable letter from the AOC. If I hadn't written most of it myself I might have thought he meant it.

When you consider he was probably in primary school when I was on my first operation
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Old 31st Oct 2007, 19:56
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Gus Walker

Saw his name in a previous post on this thread. You're right, must be loads of excellent anecdotes about him
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I finally baled out of the Service whilst on secondment. I of course thus ended up with all the relevant paperwork; including the nausea about the paragraph for fitting the AOC's (who?) valedictory letter etc. etc.
Filed in the 360deg cabinet.

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Old 1st Nov 2007, 08:29
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Tigs

not sure how many years 20-odd is, but I am sure that VLs were for people completing 22 years+. If you just fell the wrong side you would not have received one.

IMHO only some of them were worth the paper they were written on. If you had a boss that knew you and knew of your past, then he would be able to write something meaningful. If you had a new boss, or had not been long in your last post, the system expected that boss to cobble something together from the briefest of summaries provided from Handbrake House.

While nice to get something, I always questioned the value of certain VLs, thinking they should have come from PMA rathr than being drafted by flt cdr because they had access to all an individual's records and had a comprehensive picture of service. Might suggest it to ACOS Manning now they have so much spare capacity.
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Old 1st Nov 2007, 12:29
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Thumbs up

On detachment to USA several years ago the Warrant Sar diver on an american squadron retired after 30 years. Presented with Stars and Stripes that had been flown over the White House, letter of commendation from George W, letter of thanks to his parents from state governor, medals and SAR divers knife mounted and framed, kept his ID card, entitled to carry on using all base facilities, and married quarters.

Beats the poop out of a letter
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Old 1st Nov 2007, 16:59
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I got a Veterans Lapel Pin when I handed my clearing card into the Termination clerk.
Not a bad reward for the 8hrs it had taken me to trudge backwards and forwards around the station getting signatures from places I didn't even know existed and from people who didn't evan check or cross off any records against my name!

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Old 1st Nov 2007, 17:35
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Lot easier to just sign them yourself !!!!
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Old 1st Nov 2007, 17:43
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Integrity dear chap.
..but I know where you are comming from, needed various shades of biro and a good left handed sig

Edited to say: I believe at some Stns it can be done online with 1 form, but not at a certain secret Witshire base.
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Old 1st Nov 2007, 19:24
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Is there a backlog on these certificates? Its been nearly a year since i left and i havent received anything like that.
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Old 1st Nov 2007, 19:55
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will fly, no they are new. This means you are waiting for nothing and nothing, after a year, is what you should expect.
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thanks, i thought so
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Old 3rd Nov 2007, 09:19
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Just for balance………..

I received my Valedictory Certificate and letter, both signed by the Chief of the Air Staff, exactly one week after my leaving date.

Gratuity payment hit the bank on the same day – which one do you think was more welcome/useful?



I guess Sir Glenn has to get to the office a little earlier in the day if he is signing for everyone who is leaving (and yes I did check.........not done by machine).
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Old 3rd Nov 2007, 21:53
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Got my certificate and letter last week after 27 years service. Took me 27 seconds to put it through the shredder
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Old 3rd Nov 2007, 22:14
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I am doing genealogical research on my forebears. It is amazing some of the documents that emerge. Many, at the time, no doubt trivial. One piece was my grandfather's handwritten notes of when he was up country in Tibet and when he was back in Calcutta. Fascinating stuff and a regular cycle. Seems about 9 months after each detachment ended my grandmother had a child.

What I am trying to say is that your ancestors might hold such trivia as a valedictory letter as very important.
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Old 4th Nov 2007, 03:59
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Thumbs down Still not got here

I left in Feb this year and after 9 months plus THREE letters to Stn Cdr at last base (third letter threatening further letter to AOC and RAF News) I have received an apology from OC PMS "explaining" why I never received my valedictory. Apparently it got lost during the move from Innsworth to Wycombe. Should be on its way but not holding my breath and I have to say it did make me feel quite sleazy having to "beg" for it (the valedictory, you wannabe Frankie Howards.) Oh, and in reply to one luckier threader, final pay went in late, gratuity and pension were wrong and initially didn't get much help from JPA Helpdesk. Sorted in the end but after 24 years service it has all left a rather bad taste.
 
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I received my valedictory letter about a week after I became Mr. Nice letter, posh paper, signed by a human not a rubber stamp. Bers didn't put a postage stamp on the envelope though, so I had to pay the excess and collect it from the local sorting office!!
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Old 4th Nov 2007, 09:26
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I left in the '96 redundancy scheme. The morning Post on the day after my last day of service brought personally signed letters from AOC 1 Gp and the Air Secretary.

It can be done if the will is there to do it.
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