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So is your ultimate argument for keeping the VC10 flying one of 'heritage'?
The RAF has a flight for displaying historic aircraft and although it may seem otherwise with the age of some of the aircraft we operate the purpose of the rest of the RAF is not to act as a flying museum.
The RAF has a flight for displaying historic aircraft and although it may seem otherwise with the age of some of the aircraft we operate the purpose of the rest of the RAF is not to act as a flying museum.
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heritage...
no! certainly not! funnily enough my scribblings at the time re canopus was exactly that point - puss perfectly good a/c for job. it seemed that bean-counters were the ones that used its age for retirement reasoning!
same happened with press reporting of conc fleet retiring (don't start me on that one!) "oh, 27 yrs is very old for an a/c..." NO! it's hours not years!
same point with vc fleet - seems some of you guys have missed my point entirely. vc may be 'old' in some eyes but still v. effective - better suited to role (or roll - that'd be nice to see!) than proposed replacement (?)
between lines in letter to def min is that (as ever in all arms) defence expected to be delivered on a shoestring. everything seems to be JIT these days. all too often is Just Outta Time! can't call him an a**e to his face can i?
look what nearly happened with vulcs - blackbuck a/cs waiting for gas axe at the time - even AAR probes had to be 'borrowed' (incedentally heard that stores pylons were cobbled with dexion shelving - is that true? wouldnt suprise me LOL)
usaf never seem to behave like this - but then its not the british way is it?!?!
same happened with press reporting of conc fleet retiring (don't start me on that one!) "oh, 27 yrs is very old for an a/c..." NO! it's hours not years!
same point with vc fleet - seems some of you guys have missed my point entirely. vc may be 'old' in some eyes but still v. effective - better suited to role (or roll - that'd be nice to see!) than proposed replacement (?)
between lines in letter to def min is that (as ever in all arms) defence expected to be delivered on a shoestring. everything seems to be JIT these days. all too often is Just Outta Time! can't call him an a**e to his face can i?
look what nearly happened with vulcs - blackbuck a/cs waiting for gas axe at the time - even AAR probes had to be 'borrowed' (incedentally heard that stores pylons were cobbled with dexion shelving - is that true? wouldnt suprise me LOL)
usaf never seem to behave like this - but then its not the british way is it?!?!
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Trying to create the MRA4 from MR2s was a bad idea. It would have been far cheaper and easier to buy newer, more modern a/c than the hotch potch that the MRA4 will be.
Don't underestimate the cost of trying to re-engineer an old a/c. Better sparfes availability and therefore cost, the lack of having to go through an entire flight test and engineering regime from the outset...Rebuilding a VC10 could have enormous expense. Bring on the A330, and sod the publiuc use contractural nightmare and buy them outright, soon as.
Don't underestimate the cost of trying to re-engineer an old a/c. Better sparfes availability and therefore cost, the lack of having to go through an entire flight test and engineering regime from the outset...Rebuilding a VC10 could have enormous expense. Bring on the A330, and sod the publiuc use contractural nightmare and buy them outright, soon as.
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Please don't let NATO nations (including UK of course) buy any more/different tankers - it took the best part of 3 hrs on Friday just to print-out the 'new' ATP 56(B) (effective 1 Apr 07) !
See here:
ATP 56 (B)
And was with half the Nations not having any capability!
STH
See here:
ATP 56 (B)
And was with half the Nations not having any capability!
STH
And what do you think of the 'observation', 'reform' and 'buddy cruise' nonsense?
Still waiting to discover the correct calls for swapping receivers between hoses for training or during trails.......
Still waiting to discover the correct calls for swapping receivers between hoses for training or during trails.......
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drustsonoferp. Regarding Nimrod alternatives, I'm fascinated by your proposals for providing a weapons bay; which are? I am, of course, aware that submarine killing isn't fashionable this week.
