Terror linked to the war?
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GBZ No I didn't mean that they are legitimate for us to attack!!!!! not unless they harp on about Gib again
Clearly I am being simplistic in a very complex argument, as pointed out there are many reasons for anti-west attacks but for People like Blair and now Brown to dismiss the part our foreign policy has played is both stupid and patronising to those of us who know beter!
Clearly I am being simplistic in a very complex argument, as pointed out there are many reasons for anti-west attacks but for People like Blair and now Brown to dismiss the part our foreign policy has played is both stupid and patronising to those of us who know beter!
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Blacksheep,
To add to the Al Qaeda thing. The term Al Qaeda was first used (to describe a structured terrorist organisation) by FBI Investigators in connection with the African Embassy bombings of 1998. Bin Laden only used this name after September 11, 2001. In 1998 (while the US Intelligence guys rolled out 'Al Qaeda') he called his group the rather less media friendly 'World Islamic Front for Jihad against the Jews and Crusaders'.
Who is the threat to the UK?
Hamas? - No, Palestinian cause. Israel helped to create it.
Hezbollah - No, Lebanese resistance movement sparked by Israeli occupation of Lebanon.
Baathists - No, Secular political party. Founded by a Christian. Fighting the occupiers, annoyed about losing power.
The Taliban - Aka Mujahadeen. Fighting the occupiers (who is it this year?)
Iran - Minding their own business (note that this includes what is happening to their neighbours). Haven't forgiven the yanks for Op AJAX.
All of these players have a mission but it's not the Islamisation of the world.
Al Qaeda - if any truly organised group exists - may have dreams of this but its 18 000 members may have a bit of a task ahead of them if they want to win power in the British elections.
To add to the Al Qaeda thing. The term Al Qaeda was first used (to describe a structured terrorist organisation) by FBI Investigators in connection with the African Embassy bombings of 1998. Bin Laden only used this name after September 11, 2001. In 1998 (while the US Intelligence guys rolled out 'Al Qaeda') he called his group the rather less media friendly 'World Islamic Front for Jihad against the Jews and Crusaders'.
Who is the threat to the UK?
Hamas? - No, Palestinian cause. Israel helped to create it.
Hezbollah - No, Lebanese resistance movement sparked by Israeli occupation of Lebanon.
Baathists - No, Secular political party. Founded by a Christian. Fighting the occupiers, annoyed about losing power.
The Taliban - Aka Mujahadeen. Fighting the occupiers (who is it this year?)
Iran - Minding their own business (note that this includes what is happening to their neighbours). Haven't forgiven the yanks for Op AJAX.
All of these players have a mission but it's not the Islamisation of the world.
Al Qaeda - if any truly organised group exists - may have dreams of this but its 18 000 members may have a bit of a task ahead of them if they want to win power in the British elections.
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It is worrying to think that these terrorists are not the archetypal angry young Muslims with no job and no hope. They were highly-paid professionals with a prestigious career. Does this then cast potential suspicion on almost anyone within the Muslim community? Looks like the Holy Qur'an trumped the hippocratic oath to these people. But does the Holy Qur'an say that they can kill indiscriminately? I bet there is no mention of a jeep cherokee in there.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
You know, I never even realised Yemen had been part of the coalition......
Suicide Bomber at Yemeni Temple Kills 9
Monday July 2, 2007 6:46 PM
AHMED Al-HAJJ
SAN'A, Yemen (AP) - An al-Qaida suicide bomber blew himself up Monday at the site of an ancient temple popular with tourists, killing seven Spaniards and two Yemenis........
Witnesses said the bomber drove a car through the gate of the temple compound, and the vehicle exploded near the structure, which was built about 3,000 years ago and dedicated to the Queen of Sheba................
Suicide Bomber at Yemeni Temple Kills 9
Monday July 2, 2007 6:46 PM
AHMED Al-HAJJ
SAN'A, Yemen (AP) - An al-Qaida suicide bomber blew himself up Monday at the site of an ancient temple popular with tourists, killing seven Spaniards and two Yemenis........
Witnesses said the bomber drove a car through the gate of the temple compound, and the vehicle exploded near the structure, which was built about 3,000 years ago and dedicated to the Queen of Sheba................