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Old 28th Jun 2007, 17:50
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What's all the fuss about? It is the considered opinion of everyone on this forum that Des couldn't muck it up any worse than he has so far, just how bad could it get?
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Old 28th Jun 2007, 18:29
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At least Gordon has stayed on message - he must have mentioned 'change' as many times as I have to tell Compressorstall Junior to do his homework. Plus he's bringing us something 'new' - standby...
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Old 28th Jun 2007, 19:13
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Originally Posted by Tourist
It is only right to give him, lets say 6 months, before we decide he is a disaster.
6 months is a bit tight. How about we give him 10 YEARS.

Oh we already have...

It's a bit rich trying to pretend all that's gone before was "...nothing to do with me, mate". How thick does he think we are?
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Old 28th Jun 2007, 19:21
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Originally Posted by Squirrel 41
First off, this isn't a party-political rant.

But I am disappointed and/or confused: El Gordo last week and this week blathered on about the importance of "a government of all the talents".
And indeed he was semi-publicly rebuffed by Paddy Ashdown....

... which makes you wonder why Des Brooowne, who's principal achievement appears to have been (a small) improvement on the "utterly, utterly useless" BuffHoon is still in the Cabinet?

Let alone getting another half-a-job??!

Is this an indication that El Gordo thinks that there is no talent left in New Labour? Or just that none of them have ever served? Or that he doesn't understand or care less about defence?

... or sadly, a combination of all three...?

Government of all the talents? yer right, more like a pretty poor spoiler attempted by Brown on the Conservative Party and possibly the Lib-Dems as well, and seen through by Menzies and Paddy A....

Give it large about a "government of all the talents", employ a couple of Lib-Dems in Junior Posts where they can't do any real harm to the 'Brown Way' and set up a committee using industry stars, but give it less real power and influence on the 'Brown Way' than the tea lady has and leave the Conservative's right out in the cold...

Then spin it until next year so the great unwashed out there begin to believe the Con's were left out due to incompetence.... if needed, quietly brief against and blame any woe's on the 'non libours' .... and then go to the country.

Brown's been the Chancellor and effectively Blair’s 2i/c for the last 10 years, come to that he has probably been running the country at home for most of that time what with Blair’s liking of International free travel etc. With that thought can anyone think anything will really change for the better?

Another ten years of this lot and it's looking good for Keevil being the only active airfield left....



.... Would the last one out please turn out the lights....
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Old 28th Jun 2007, 19:21
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It could have been worse, no really it could, he could have been Scotland Minister and Secretary of State for Defence. At least the way it is shows which is the secondary duty! Doh

Much on the news channels about this being something of a political blunder as chaps are dying in action!
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Old 28th Jun 2007, 20:20
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..but missing in all of this is an interesting conflict of interest

As Minister of Defence he can approve plans for the deployment of the Armed Forces and their assets. As Secretary for Scotland he is responsible for the interests of Jockoland

So, when considering the future of, say Devonport vs Faslane, what does he do?
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Old 28th Jun 2007, 20:35
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I don't know about Faslane, but since Rosyth is within spitting distance of the PM's constituency, I imagine if there's a fight between Devonport and Rosyth, Swiss Des is to do exactly what the PM tells him to do.
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Old 28th Jun 2007, 20:49
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If he's looking in 2 directions at once then there is a better chance of pulling the wool over his eyes!

By the way Gordo, Broon et al

WE WORK FOR HER MAJESTY QUEEN ELIZABETH THE SECOND.

Not you.

Think about it.
 
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<pedant>

Or, if you're a Scotsman or woman: HM Queen Elizabeth.

<\pedant>
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Old 28th Jun 2007, 21:01
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