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Floods in Sheffield - a thank you!

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Old 26th Jun 2007, 13:43
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Thumbs up Floods in Sheffield - a thank you!

Dear all,

A quick thank you from the police in South Yorkshire to all those who flew last night and today in helping us evacuate people from various places across the city. I know SAR from Leconfield and I think Kinloss were involved, but thank you to anyone else as well.
The op is still ongoing, but your efforts are appreciated.
I am a police officer in Sheffield, and very wet...
Best regards to you all!

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Old 26th Jun 2007, 13:54
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Thumbs up Also very wet!!!!!!!!!!

A big thank you also from the fire crews in Sheffield. I spent a very long wet afternoon evacuating people from cars and buildings on brightside lane. We knew it was really going t*ts up when you fellas turned up!!!

A brilliant job well done,


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Old 26th Jun 2007, 14:33
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My Daughters there at the Universtiy of Sheffield. Currently getting some revision in at her house.
I rang her this morning, concerned.

Dont know what your'e talking about, she replied.

Which supports my long held theory. Buy the house at the top of the hill.

But seriously, good effort from those involved - we never get anything less do we.
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Seconded - RAF rescue Sea Kings looked to be doing sterling work last night.

Just had two Tornado GR4s over Sheffield - anyone know why? Photography or do they have some special equipment?
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Old 26th Jun 2007, 15:48
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ome special equipment?
Application of re-heat will help evaporate the flood water?
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Old 26th Jun 2007, 16:04
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Perhaps a recce of the affected areas....?
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Old 26th Jun 2007, 16:15
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There was a lone Tornado over Chesterfield this afternoon at about 14:30 turned round right over my house

And then flew back towards Sheffield.
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Old 26th Jun 2007, 18:41
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I apologise for this in advance.. but I cant resist:

Was the tornado from the Dam Busters????????

well done to all those helping and best wishes to those affected.
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Old 26th Jun 2007, 19:00
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Smile CAP

I did ask if the RAF had a CAP up to keep any opportinistic Luftwaffe types seeking revenge away from that dodgy dam...

Last edited by Double Zero; 11th Jul 2007 at 18:49. Reason: Been done better
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Old 26th Jun 2007, 21:19
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14:43 to 19:41

4:58 to the sick joke.

There's a PhD in calibrating disasters by time to the bad humour.
Seriously, there must have been at least one other SAR Flight present. Having been elsewhere for a few days I haven't seen the tote so don't know exactly who attended. I suspect I'm the only one associated with Leconfield who posts here regularly. Delighted to assist (though I didn't fly this one), and good to see co-operation between us all in the civil resilience business. This was a very small test in the great scheme of things. Will pass on your thanks at the SAR Force Conference tomorrow.

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Old 26th Jun 2007, 22:24
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SAR

On a real not jokey note, I think it disgusting a country of our size & wealth does not have a hell of a lot more SAR & ambulance helos ( very different roles I know ) , pads & AAEC's at a great deal MORE hospitals, not a great deal less as planned - in a way, even more of a scandal than supporting Iraq / 'Stan.

Don't get me wrong, rather than a lot of plasma screens, civil serpents etc you would have much more support if we the public had anything to do with it - I used to be a civvy in military development & if properly organised we all know we could afford it !

Having whip-rounds to get hospital helo's - no decent protection for front line guys - 'third world' countries must be laughing at us...
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I Believe Boulmer assisted with their flight as well as Leconfield with of course Kinloss ARCC co-ordinating.
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Old 26th Jun 2007, 22:56
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Regarding the Ulley Reservoir, if they wanted pumping engines to shift lots of water, the government could provide a fleet of Green Goddesses, after all they were designed to pump lots of water....

...Oh the penny pinchers got rid of them, didn't they.

Still, Hats raised, and beers drunk in praise of all of the emergency services, and that bloke in the JCB.
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Old 26th Jun 2007, 23:17
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Reservoir

I agree with all the above post; one thing, I once worked on 38 metre barges in Burgundy - the farmers there used much larger bore hoses & pumps to irrigate their crops, from the canals, to the extent that the ( shallow draught ) barges ran aground & if lucky managed to use sheer engine power - lot's of torque & inertia but only about 100hp - to get to the next lock !

From what I saw on TV today the hoses & pumps were nothing like as big as the bore ( roughly 6" + ) the French used as a matter of routine.
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 00:32
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Pumps

On reflection, the Burgondonian farmers use more like 10-12" or larger dia' uptakes, pipes & faily high rate continuosly to drain the canal for irrigation ( much much larger than British canals, see the craft ) - big difference, & with pump capacity to suit.

They could always have volunteered their kit to help ( then again they might have for all I know ) - anyway would be ideal, and why don't we have it ?

After all, judging by experts on the climate, it should be in reverse dispensing sun-block soon ...
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I'm amazed - you've contributed to a thread in the Military Forum without slagging off the aircraft involved. Or even suggested that the Tornado aircraft were on a sighseeing trip and why are they flying anyway because they're not doing anything operational right now blah blah blah.

Surprised you didn't suggest that the GR9s be used to hover over the flooded areas to dry them out (and bring the SHARs, gawd bless 'em, out of retirement to support them). Coz the only real aircraft as we now is the Harrier

Of course, if we were able to procure off the shelf rather than be forced to invest in over-priced rip-off British Defence Companies, that rarely if ever deliver on time, then we could invest more elsewhere...

Was your factory affected?

Back on thread - good effort from the SAR boys, sand bag fillers and all others who have helped over the last week or so. Remember folks, charity starts at home...
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 08:18
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Wrathmonk,

thinking about it you're quite right ( my opinion was misguided for a minute by a chum who's ex-617 ).

The Harriers could have lifted people out 4 at a time with those pods...
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Old 27th Jun 2007, 08:20
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Regarding the Ulley Reservoir,
From the local Cumbrian newspaper Cumbria fire service called to assist with high capacity pump from Kendal, first used in Carlisle floods of 2005.
A number of these are stationed around the country for this type of situation.

Did anyone hear the BBC interview with the RAF Kinloss spokesman on Mon, when asked about resources mentioned if neccesary a Chinook would be sent.
For 5 mins after TV announcers were using the term Chinook as though they knew what they were talking about! There voices sounded more like "what the hll is a Chinook" - well done the beeb - again!

Well done all involved, was on the edge of Carlisle incident and know what you were/are going through.
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Wrathmonk, having had a go at Double Zero, it's interesting that you are still obsessed with "off the shelf"; meaning of foreign origin. I take it world economics and balance of payments isn't one of your strong points. Maybe we should buy our dams off the shelf from the Germans. They must still have the drawings for the Sorpe Dam somewhere.
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Damn Dams

A certain Mr Farley always had and whenever possible adhered to the phrase & motive ' UK Ltd ' which meant helping out small British companies whenever we could...I can supply photo's to demonstrate this now apparently weird concept.

Later on in BAe I was mistakenly sent a call from a chap with a small electronics company who'd staked everything on a test rig which had got BAe out of the s==t then he'd not been paid...

I contacted the accounts dept. and found it was standard practice to delay paying to the last day of 3 months, or preferably not at all.

As far as I know the poor guy who'd bust a gut to help couldn't last that long...

BTW Wrathmonk, it was a flight testing airfield, not so much a factory - though whippet botherers wouldn't know the difference.
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