Floods in Sheffield - a thank you!
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Thread drift ....
More than happy with world economics and balance of payments. BUT .... what would you rather have - equipment now that can do the job now to support those that need it now (albeit from a "friendly" foreign country) or start from scratch with UK plc and have the product 10 years after it had a useful shelf life.
I am also happy that COTS is not the answer to all our problems - sometimes even the kit needed now is not available in the (sometimes?) short-notice led requirements process (UAV for instance) and technology transfer could remain an issue.
Back on thread ....
BZ to all you fine rescue chaps. Easy to forget about those that put the hours and skill (and potentially their lives) to support those in peril on the UK mainland when so many are "supporting" BLiars global aspirations.
Thread drift ....
More than happy with world economics and balance of payments. BUT .... what would you rather have - equipment now that can do the job now to support those that need it now (albeit from a "friendly" foreign country) or start from scratch with UK plc and have the product 10 years after it had a useful shelf life.
I am also happy that COTS is not the answer to all our problems - sometimes even the kit needed now is not available in the (sometimes?) short-notice led requirements process (UAV for instance) and technology transfer could remain an issue.
Back on thread ....
BZ to all you fine rescue chaps. Easy to forget about those that put the hours and skill (and potentially their lives) to support those in peril on the UK mainland when so many are "supporting" BLiars global aspirations.
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Well you started it, 
& GBZ was kind enough to step in - Ta !
As for SAR crews, I'm totally in support, as I indicated in my first post - more power ( and equipment, support etc ) to your elbow.
Job very well done as usual...
DZ
& GBZ was kind enough to step in - Ta !As for SAR crews, I'm totally in support, as I indicated in my first post - more power ( and equipment, support etc ) to your elbow.
Job very well done as usual...
DZ
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Well done the SAR Bouys!!!! Good Effort.
Would have loved to assist bt...
A. All our cabs have spent so long in the desert they would have dissolved in the rain.
B. We tend to shift the problem by blowing the water/casualties into a neighbouring county.
C. We can't think of things to brief for 45 minutes.
And D..... You do a much better job! Well done.
WM
Would have loved to assist bt...
A. All our cabs have spent so long in the desert they would have dissolved in the rain.
B. We tend to shift the problem by blowing the water/casualties into a neighbouring county.
C. We can't think of things to brief for 45 minutes.
And D..... You do a much better job! Well done.
WM
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The 1st standby crew from Leconfield were first on scene (their 5th job of the day), closely followed by the Leconfield 2nds crew, and the Boulmer 1st crew.
The 3 Sea Kings were later joined by the Wattisham 1st standby crew who, as well as rescuing people from buildings, lifted 2 people who were clinging to a tree in a fast moving "river".
The police ASU (Air Support Unit) also did a great job of spotting casualties for the Sea Kings to rescue.
Four SAR helicopters all together were involved, from both 22 Sqn and 202 Sqn - just in time for the SAR Force Conference!
The 3 Sea Kings were later joined by the Wattisham 1st standby crew who, as well as rescuing people from buildings, lifted 2 people who were clinging to a tree in a fast moving "river".
The police ASU (Air Support Unit) also did a great job of spotting casualties for the Sea Kings to rescue.
Four SAR helicopters all together were involved, from both 22 Sqn and 202 Sqn - just in time for the SAR Force Conference!
Definately a Chinook on the box last night moving about four bags of sand...
The reprorter was sat inside said Chinook. with Aircrew franticily gesticulating through hatch as if directing the load onto the ground. I didnt see the reporter wearing ear defenders - Whats the betting they were actually on terra firma at the time!
The reprorter was sat inside said Chinook. with Aircrew franticily gesticulating through hatch as if directing the load onto the ground. I didnt see the reporter wearing ear defenders - Whats the betting they were actually on terra firma at the time!
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The Telegraph reports today that "A Chinook helicopter from RAF Odiham, Wilts , was used to lift 150 one-ton bags of aggregate to help shore up the riverbank around Bentley."
[I wish they'd stop moving air bases, gets expensive for the publications team]
[I wish they'd stop moving air bases, gets expensive for the publications team]
Maybe we should buy our dams off the shelf from the Germans. They must still have the drawings for the Sorpe Dam somewhere.
The British dam at Ulley is in serious danger of collapse...solely because it can't cope with water building up behind it!
One-nil to Albert Speer, I'd say!
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Only saw one military vehicle the one that appeared to have slipped off the road, Still they sold off all the stalwarts, have they got any amphibious vehices left.
Surely would have been more cost effective than helicopters, in a lot of situations?
Surely would have been more cost effective than helicopters, in a lot of situations?
have they got any amphibious vehices (sic) left.
Surely would have been more cost effective than helicopters, in a lot of situations?
Surely would have been more cost effective than helicopters, in a lot of situations?
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TorqueOfTheDevil. Perhaps a couple of dots off Thread but the Sorpe, an earth dam like the Ulley, didn't break, even after after absorbing 2 well placed UPKEEP mines. It was damaged and the held capacity was reduced accordingly as a precaution; but it didn't breach.
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....have they got any amphibious vehicles left. Surely would have been more cost effective than helicopters
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have they got any amphibious vehicles left. Surely would have been more cost effective than helicopters
It's unlikely to make sense to keep such kit in emergency reserve when we've got RW assets to hand. God help us though if it floods again when we've got an even bigger war on
Tightrope - the ASU talk to SAR on VHF - one of the winchmen (flt cdr actually) went in to the Police Gold control - their words were 'Thank God someone who speaks helicopter' - and used his handheld VHF to task the 3 SAR helos. Otherwise it really would have been a goat. And no the police don't train to use military assets - discussed at length at the SARF conference.
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Police Helo's still have the VHF/UHF kit in them as well as Tetra/Airwave. Airwave have a contract for emergencies to extra transmitters on the ground in x amount of hours.
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Dare I mention the word 'Optica' ? Tragic result when a non-test police pilot tried his luck...
On a brighter note, GBZ you're right about that dam, it's about time we had another go - could use up inert Blue Steels & Sea Eagles maybe - though we'd have to leave the Red Arrows in war role on CAP above our own dodgy dam...on second thoughts we can stand to lose a lot of whippet botherers, we could just post the Germans the co-ordinates...oh the post's on strike - Bu**er.
On a brighter note, GBZ you're right about that dam, it's about time we had another go - could use up inert Blue Steels & Sea Eagles maybe - though we'd have to leave the Red Arrows in war role on CAP above our own dodgy dam...on second thoughts we can stand to lose a lot of whippet botherers, we could just post the Germans the co-ordinates...oh the post's on strike - Bu**er.
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I think a big shout out should go to the girls and boys who helped with coordinating the sar helos from Kinloss.
A big effort from a little known group who coordinates the rescue of so many people around the UK and the world
A big effort from a little known group who coordinates the rescue of so many people around the UK and the world
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The streets of Sheffield echo to the sounds of "Super, Smashing, great" as Bullseye's star prize winners finally get a chance to use their prizes....Their * speedboats........
The streets of Sheffield echo to the sounds of "Super, Smashing, great" as Bullseye's star prize winners finally get a chance to use their prizes....Their * speedboats........
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Thank goodness I didn't opt for that little house on the flood plain, unlike my near neighbours.......
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Thank goodness I didn't opt for that little house on the flood plain, unlike my near neighbours.......
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Not to mention a certain individual who shall remain nameless, who appeared on TV at the Ulley Reservoir with reporters and large bags of sand......????
Any guesses on a postcard if you will
Any guesses on a postcard if you will
