Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

Question for the Queens Flight / Royal Flight Experts

Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Question for the Queens Flight / Royal Flight Experts

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 16th Jun 2007, 22:42
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South of the M4
Posts: 1,640
Received 17 Likes on 8 Posts
Question for the Queens Flight / Royal Flight Experts

I was stationed at Biggin Hill from late 1953 to early 1956. Whilst there the Queen Mother as Honorary Air Commodore to 600 [City of London] Squadron RAuxAF, made a visit to the squadron. She arrived and departed in a Royal Navy Westland Whirlwind helicopter.

My photo of the event taken I think in the winter of 1954/55 can be seen here:
http://groups.msn.com/TonyHawesRAFSe...to&PhotoID=720

So my query is why did the Queen Mum use a RN helicopter rather than an RAF one of the Queen's flight for her visit?

Original photo is not clear enough to fully resolve the serial number of the Whilwind apart from the prefix which looks like WV and the final number which may be 4.
Warmtoast is offline  
Old 17th Jun 2007, 21:39
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Norfolk swamps
Age: 57
Posts: 167
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Long shot answer..........

The Navy had Whirlwinds a year or two before the RAF ( 53 as opposed to 55 )

Was it a case of this was the newest, safest type around in late 54?
JagRigger is offline  
Old 18th Jun 2007, 01:02
  #3 (permalink)  
Cunning Artificer
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: The spiritual home of DeHavilland
Age: 76
Posts: 3,127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The Queen's Flight later equipped with two Westland Whirlwind HCC12s of their own. One of them had a main rotor shaft failure. The rotor head separated and the helicopter crashed with the loss of the crew. The rotor shaft was found to have been subjected to a local hot spot by improper machining during manufacture.

For safety reasons, HM Queens's Flight thenceforth only operated twin engined helicopters. The remaining HCC12 - XR486 - was then transferred to 32 Squadron, the VIP transport unit operating out of Northolt, where I worked on it for a time along with their HCC10s and Andover CC2s.

The Wessex still had only one main rotor drive shaft though...
Blacksheep is offline  
Old 18th Jun 2007, 02:24
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: FL, USA
Posts: 357
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'll check from my official history, but offhand I'm pretty sure Jagrigger has it right. I'm flying a trip right now - I'll get back on this...
Cheers ex-TQF
RRAAMJET is offline  
Old 27th Jun 2007, 21:25
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Swindon, Wiltshire
Age: 74
Posts: 279
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The Queens Flight didn't get their own helicopter until 1954, when they had a Westland Dragonfly on loan from CFS for a year , then borrowed a RAF Whirlwind HC.2(XJ432) in 1956-67, followed by a Royal Navy Whirlwind HAR.4( XL111) in 1958-59,until finally they got their own first two piston-engined Whirlwind HCC.8s, XN126/7 in late 1959. As already related, these were replaced by two Gnome-engined Whirlwind HCC.12s, XR486/7 in 1964.
Amos Keeto is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.