Intercepting Wandering Bears & Blackjacks Again (Merged)
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Has there been any report on whether these aircraft are carrying nuclear weapons?
Wonder precisely what Russia hopes to achieve by this. Could this lead to the US SAC flying B52s near Russia.... All seems like a bit of a backwards step to me. Perhaps Putin didn't like the food at Kennebunkport.
Wonder precisely what Russia hopes to achieve by this. Could this lead to the US SAC flying B52s near Russia.... All seems like a bit of a backwards step to me. Perhaps Putin didn't like the food at Kennebunkport.
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Good news as it means that Paw Broon has no excuse to run the defence budget down any more as the bloody Russians are getting all aggresive again. Funny how this always brings out the people amongst us Brits whose first thought is not "There's a Russian bomber heading right for us" but instaed "Well we must empathise with ( insert oppressed foreign people ) in their fight with the EVIL Americans."
They'll be digging Tony Benn up soon. Yes I know he's not dead but still........
Seriously and fundamentally I disagree that this is a backward step. It is step towards normality being resumed. The Russians have their world view. We in the West have ours. Anything that gets the word "middle east" off the front pages has got to be good.
They'll be digging Tony Benn up soon. Yes I know he's not dead but still........
Seriously and fundamentally I disagree that this is a backward step. It is step towards normality being resumed. The Russians have their world view. We in the West have ours. Anything that gets the word "middle east" off the front pages has got to be good.
Ok, a dumb question from a civi pilot.
How do the Russian Bears navigate through the airline tracks without hitting another aircraft. Of course, they use radar and as I understnd it, they do have the kit on board.
But,........isnt it the norm to keep your transmitting gear quiet, such as radars etc so;
A) the otherside doesnt know your comming and,
B) the less time you transmit, means the less time the other side has to enalyse your electronic signature.
Lastly, with the big B-52 raids on Iraq that were launched from the UK, a map shows they have to transverse significant western European Airspace.
How were they separated from the civi travic, such as close to the UK etc.
Does ATC get a flight plan and ony certain ATCO's know about the plan and handle the military traffic.
How do the Russian Bears navigate through the airline tracks without hitting another aircraft. Of course, they use radar and as I understnd it, they do have the kit on board.
But,........isnt it the norm to keep your transmitting gear quiet, such as radars etc so;
A) the otherside doesnt know your comming and,
B) the less time you transmit, means the less time the other side has to enalyse your electronic signature.
Lastly, with the big B-52 raids on Iraq that were launched from the UK, a map shows they have to transverse significant western European Airspace.
How were they separated from the civi travic, such as close to the UK etc.
Does ATC get a flight plan and ony certain ATCO's know about the plan and handle the military traffic.
PingDit,
I think you'll find that the slip up was on the part of the original poster, not the BBC, wasn't that you?
I think you'll find that the slip up was on the part of the original poster, not the BBC, wasn't that you?
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Justone26 I agree, no F3s based at Waddo, have the got it wrong and meant to say E3s?
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...,00.html?f=rss
Also I presume a tanker was used since it sounds as though they were fairly well up north - no mention of Brize and a VC10/Tristar!
Also on the BBC website and News24:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6981541.stm
Interesting comment from the Norwegian Lt Col "Our systems are adequate", he said, when asked whether Norway was bolstering its security in the area. I havent heard anyone from the UK stating that - is it because our systems arent adeqate?
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...,00.html?f=rss
Also I presume a tanker was used since it sounds as though they were fairly well up north - no mention of Brize and a VC10/Tristar!
Also on the BBC website and News24:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6981541.stm
Interesting comment from the Norwegian Lt Col "Our systems are adequate", he said, when asked whether Norway was bolstering its security in the area. I havent heard anyone from the UK stating that - is it because our systems arent adeqate?
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I think you'll find that the slip up was on the part of the original poster, not the BBC, wasn't that you?
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....well remember being woken from my slumbers in Wycombe Towers back in the Spring of 2003, by a stream of Buff's taking a early morning tour of Southern England on their way back into Fairford, bomb racks empty.
Perhaps they were lost
Seriously, I don't know about the detail of their routings, and doubt anyone on here is going to tell you either.
Perhaps they were lost
Seriously, I don't know about the detail of their routings, and doubt anyone on here is going to tell you either.
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Yep, I was indeed the original poster this time round, and my quote was verbatum from BBC Radio 2 news desk this lunchtime. They definately said Norwegian F15's - made me think too!
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Another article here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...nrussia106.xml
Interestingly:
I wondered when they'd get their boats involved.
Interestingly:
As relations between Russia and Britain deteriorate, the number of incidents in which Russia's submarines have been found close to British shores or in contact with Royal Navy warships has also risen.
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Before you all go blaming the dumb journos, BBC or otherwise, I'd just point out that MOD press office have been trying to tell anyone who'll listen that Norwegians scrambled their non-existent F15s to intercept.
Having glanced at this thread I smugly pointed out that they were talking bolleaux, which they eventually conceded was indeed the case. Praise the Lord for Prune.
Have a sneaking admiration for the Russians.
When did Marham last get an eight-ship formation airborne, just to go and wind up another country for a laugh?
When did the RAF last get an eight-ship airborne, for that matter?
(Reds excluded)
Having glanced at this thread I smugly pointed out that they were talking bolleaux, which they eventually conceded was indeed the case. Praise the Lord for Prune.
Have a sneaking admiration for the Russians.
When did Marham last get an eight-ship formation airborne, just to go and wind up another country for a laugh?
When did the RAF last get an eight-ship airborne, for that matter?
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Indeed - the original copy stated the Norwegian aircraft were F-15s. A sharp eyed ex-Air Cadet and Ppruner was able to spot the error before publication on one UK news website.
Similarly also - maybe the MoD press office reads Pprune - as the latest statement included deployment of E3D (from Waddington, hence Sky's confusion) and VC10.
BABlue
Similarly also - maybe the MoD press office reads Pprune - as the latest statement included deployment of E3D (from Waddington, hence Sky's confusion) and VC10.
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I can just imagine Nigel in his Speedbird flying merrily along on the great circle route to somwhere like LAX, "WTF, 8 Bears"
" I Must stay off the magic mushrooms with lunch"
" I Must stay off the magic mushrooms with lunch"
