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Intercepting Wandering Bears & Blackjacks Again (Merged)

Old 28th Feb 2008, 07:29
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/c...&nbram=1&asb=1

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Old 28th Feb 2008, 13:28
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BBC in Engels filming the marauding Bear

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/new...news=1&bbcws=1

Guess this is why the Q guys are getting busier! Any chance of a few more quid to help, Gordon?
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Old 24th Jan 2009, 20:40
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Post QRA Stats for 2008

A recent repsonse from Hansard ref Q launches:

Russia: Military Aircraft

Dr. Fox: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence how many times Russian military aircraft approached British airspace in (a) each month in 2008 and (b) each year since 2006.

Mr. Bob Ainsworth: The following table details how frequently Quick Reaction Alert aircraft have been launched to identify Russian military aircraft approaching the NATO Air Policing Area for which the United Kingdom has responsibility, in each month of 2008.

2008 Number
January 2
February 0
March 1
April 1
May 1
June 0
July 1
August 1
September 1
October 1
November 0
December 1

The following table details how frequently Quick Reaction Alert aircraft were launched to identify Russian military aircraft:

Number
2006 1

2007 19

2008 10

All Russian military Aircraft have remained in International airspace and have not entered UK airspace.
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Old 24th Jan 2009, 21:08
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You do realise that all the replies on Hansard are open to "doctoring"
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... and also careful wording:
All Russian military Aircraft have remained in International airspace and have not entered UK airspace.
So they have remained more than 12nm from the mean line of the UK coast then.
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Old 25th Jan 2009, 07:48
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Old 24th Mar 2010, 15:41
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And another one...

BBC News - RAF spots Russian jets near Western Isles

Two Blackjacks this time, coming a long way down.

Article says intercepted near STN... given the elasticity with which that location can be interpreted, I'd like to have thought that they'd have ID'd them a lot further north than STN...
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Old 24th Mar 2010, 16:30
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Are Tremblers not mounting QRA temporarily from Lossie, or has that all changed?
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Old 24th Mar 2010, 20:35
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Northern Radar Coverage

Good that we got them by STN, not so sure about us seeing them a great deal further North than that though. Remember that we dont have Saxa Vord any more, nor the Faeroes! Civilian radars wont help since I don't think the Russians have started sqwarking. Quite a risk for someone to be taking.
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Old 25th Mar 2010, 10:29
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The thing that I'm finding particularly disconcerting about this episode is the use of the word "over".

Looking at the various places the story has been run - The Torygraph, plus the Abz Press & Journal, Metro and others theres a lot of "over the Isle Of Lewis", "over Scotland", "over the Outer Hebrides", as against "over the North Atlantic" or "over the North Sea" - the implication being that at some point or other, these Blackjacks actually flew overland in UK airspace.

Now, I'm sure its more than likely journalistic licence/interpretation, but the choice of words, unless deliberately targetted at the dumbed-down, doesnt exactly go a huge way towards reinforcing any fast-eroding confidence in the Air Defence side of things in the UK...

I sincerely hope I'm reading too much into it.

Jackonicko, I'd welcome your take on it.
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Old 25th Mar 2010, 10:46
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For a really good slant on this see The Times readers comments !!

Most along the lines of "Good God bloody Ruskies in our airspace - shoot the buggers down I say what what" !!

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Old 25th Mar 2010, 10:53
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The online Daily Mail map is quite clear and has the bombing run from Islay to Thurso. That'll scare 'em

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Old 25th Mar 2010, 17:20
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I'm wondering if they showed any interest in goings-on at Benbecula?

Does anyone have access to any more of those Hebridean Sunset piccies, showing Blackjacks on the prowl?

Dear OldBilbo,

Iím terribly sorry but Iím unable to send you the RAF photos you requested today.
Iím authorised to issue MoD material to the media, not the general public, but if you still wish to get copies of the photos you could try making a Freedom of Information request to the MoD. Information on how to do this is on the MoD website: Ministry of Defence | Contact us | Freedom of Information - Information request
I hope that helps.
I imagine I'll get a faster, more helpful response from the Russian Embassy....
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Old 25th Mar 2010, 17:27
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A Daily Mail reader aircraft recognition expert spills the beans!

"Having seen a low level fly-over of British Aerospace Chadderton Manchester by a Russian Nuclear Bomber in the summer of 2008 nothing surprises me. That Aircraft appeared on a sunny afternoon with no sign of UK defence aircraft.
- Mike walsh, Toronto Canada "

Those pesky Russians disguising themselves as Nimrod MRA4s!

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Old 25th Mar 2010, 17:43
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Old 25th Mar 2010, 18:02
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Originally Posted by TEEEJ View Post
A Daily Mail reader aircraft recognition expert spills the beans!
...
Those pesky Russians disguising themselves as Nimrod MRA4s!
South of France here.
I can feel for the guy....

A year or so ago.... I spotted a Comet IV from the garden, and LOW (3000ft or so).
I did start wondering if I'd seen a ghost... until I found out that an MRA4 had been staging through MPL on the way to Afganistan.

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Can anyone translate the Ruskies red writing just behind the cockpits on these TU-160's please. You may have to google 'MOD Photo's' to get the pics as I cannot upload while at work.....
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Old 26th Mar 2010, 23:38
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Fred,

See following links

Tu-160 names - Key Publishing Ltd Aviation Forums

'01- Mikhail Gromov (Famous test pilot)

02- Vasiliy Reshetnikov (Former Long- range Aviation commander)

03- Pavel Taran (WW2 Bomber pilot)

04- Ivan Yarygin (Famous wrestler, won gold at 1972 Olympics)

05- Originally Il'ya Muromets, now Aleksandr Golovanov (Long- range Aviation commander, 1942-44 and 1946-48)

06- Il'ya Muromets

07- Aleksadr Molodchiy (famous WW2 bomber pilot)

11- Vasiliy Sen'ko (only Long- range Aviation navigator to become Hero of the Soviet Union twice)

12- Aleksandr Novikov (1940s Air Chief Marshal)

16- Aleksey Plokhov (WW2 Bomber pilot)'

Tupolev Tu-160 Blackjack

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Old 26th Mar 2010, 23:46
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Vasily Reshetnikov. Seek and ye shall find -- Wikipedia is your friend.

All rather hum-drum. Were you hoping for something sensationalist, a la Ryanair perhaps? "Bye bye defence budget"?

edit: beaten to the punch by TEEJ. Well done that man. Takes me 8 minutes longer to type with sausage-like fingers...
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Old 26th Mar 2010, 23:55
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Can anyone translate the Ruskies red writing just behind the cockpits on these TU-160's please. You may have to google 'MOD Photo's' to get the pics as I cannot upload while at work.....
"If you can read-ski this, then you are too close-ski".


(In fact, somebody might like to use the TU160 picture in a future 'caption competition' and invite suitable translations).
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