Do you have confidence in the Defence Secretary?
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Do you have confidence in the Defence Secretary?
Evening All,
I saw the interview yesterday with David Cameron where he said that if the Defence Secretary 'no longer had the confidence of our Armed Forces' then he should go.
So with that in mind, does Brown have the confidence of anyone in the Armed Forces? Certainly not from me!
My other concern is that Cameron gave the impression that those in the Armed Forces even have a say in the matter!!
Kind regards to all.
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I saw the interview yesterday with David Cameron where he said that if the Defence Secretary 'no longer had the confidence of our Armed Forces' then he should go.
So with that in mind, does Brown have the confidence of anyone in the Armed Forces? Certainly not from me!
My other concern is that Cameron gave the impression that those in the Armed Forces even have a say in the matter!!
Kind regards to all.
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Quote: TSM: So with that in mind, does Brown have the confidence of anyone in the Armed Forces? Certainly not from me!
In fact niether Brown
nor Browne generate any confidence.
In fact niether Brown
nor Browne generate any confidence.
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According to the news this evening, Des Browne has the backing of each of the individual heads of the Armed Services, so by implication if CAS, CGS and FSL support him, then so do the rest of the forces since they speak for the rest of us.
Or am I missing something here?
Y_G
Or am I missing something here?
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I've never had confidence in him and this was confirmed when he appeared at Odious a while back for a 'grip and grin-fest', acting dumb when any difficult questions were asked and quoting the party line chapter and verse, seemingly hoping that we were gullible enough to take it all as gospel.
Oh for a half decent Secretary of State for Defence for once.
Oh for a half decent Secretary of State for Defence for once.
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I think he is as poor as the last fool, Buffoon or someone.
I am utterly dismayed however, to read that the 3 service Chiefs have all apparantly given their support to him, infact I'm appalled at their decision, although I suppose it was only to be expected.
If nothing else, it only goes to show just how out of touch the chiefs are with the Indians!
The Winco
I am utterly dismayed however, to read that the 3 service Chiefs have all apparantly given their support to him, infact I'm appalled at their decision, although I suppose it was only to be expected.
If nothing else, it only goes to show just how out of touch the chiefs are with the Indians!
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I couldn't trust him as far as I can throw him. I fear the same answer would be valid for Liam Fox though.
When will our blood sweat and tears be recognized by someone with large swingers that will look after us all. When the PM makes a remark about the brave young men and women that put their life on the line I just can't help but think that the diluted statement has no meaning anymore.
Strong leadership that is hard but fair carries respect from the guys on the front line. Let's see some iron put back into our armed forces or I fear we will be the laughing stock of our military partners.
FbS
P.S. Des Browne said to Liam Fox today, he should ask the armed forces if they are behind him...... The high rankers will of course back him or they'll get moved to the store room. Ask the lower ranks and you'll find the real answers. Talk about digging your own grave!
When will our blood sweat and tears be recognized by someone with large swingers that will look after us all. When the PM makes a remark about the brave young men and women that put their life on the line I just can't help but think that the diluted statement has no meaning anymore.
Strong leadership that is hard but fair carries respect from the guys on the front line. Let's see some iron put back into our armed forces or I fear we will be the laughing stock of our military partners.
FbS
P.S. Des Browne said to Liam Fox today, he should ask the armed forces if they are behind him...... The high rankers will of course back him or they'll get moved to the store room. Ask the lower ranks and you'll find the real answers. Talk about digging your own grave!
I have every bit as much confidence in Mr Browne as I have in the good taste and judgement of our own dear Deputy PM.
In fact, I think the whole crew are pretty much out of the same mold.
In fact, I think the whole crew are pretty much out of the same mold.
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Well, I have met Mr Browne and spent quite a long time in his company ininterrupted. I formed the impression that he was a very trustworthy individual I must say. He did not convey any impressions of insincerity or incompetence to me.
Indeed, he was particularly praising and ernest in his dealings with us, and all of us formed a similar opinion of him. I know that they say that, once you can master insincerity you can make it as a politician, but I really was quite impressed by him.
To that end, his behaviour today was just what I would have expected of him; an honest admission that he had made a mistake. I do not support his party in any form, but I was quite impressed with his admission today.
He who has never made an honest mistake should cast the first stone...
Indeed, he was particularly praising and ernest in his dealings with us, and all of us formed a similar opinion of him. I know that they say that, once you can master insincerity you can make it as a politician, but I really was quite impressed by him.
To that end, his behaviour today was just what I would have expected of him; an honest admission that he had made a mistake. I do not support his party in any form, but I was quite impressed with his admission today.
He who has never made an honest mistake should cast the first stone...
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According to the news this evening, Des Browne has the backing of each of the individual heads of the Armed Services
This second question was considered by the Navy over the same short period.
The Navy concluded that payments were "Permissible" under Queen's Regulations, and that in this particular situation it was "impractical to attempt to prevent" them.
This was the position presented to me in a note sent from the Navy's HQ in Portsmouth to my office on Thursday afternoon, and which was put to me on Good Friday. I accept that in retrospect I should have rejected the note and overruled the decision.
The Navy concluded that payments were "Permissible" under Queen's Regulations, and that in this particular situation it was "impractical to attempt to prevent" them.
This was the position presented to me in a note sent from the Navy's HQ in Portsmouth to my office on Thursday afternoon, and which was put to me on Good Friday. I accept that in retrospect I should have rejected the note and overruled the decision.
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All this blaming of the navy is complete garbage and I'm surprised he's got away with it. D News's organisation told the navy there was no way they were going to be able to stop the families selling their stories - without the MoD/Navy having any control - so they had better sort it out. The navy then comes up with the plan. Browne said it was "one of my officials" who talked him through the plan, not a matelot. So was that official not complicit in the plan?
As for CGS 1SL and CAS backing Browne, what were they supposed to do? Stirrup rings them up, or gets them in, and at best asks do you have confidence in SoS? What are they going to say? Even if they give a qualified response, he can go away and say we all have confidence in him.
As for CGS 1SL and CAS backing Browne, what were they supposed to do? Stirrup rings them up, or gets them in, and at best asks do you have confidence in SoS? What are they going to say? Even if they give a qualified response, he can go away and say we all have confidence in him.
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NONE, in any of the suits that sit in Whitehall , NON in PMA Non in JPA NONE full stop , its time to pack up go get a suit and take my chances outside me thinks !!! or maybe sit the last 5 yrs out to tsake that big fat cheque and retire to the sun !! I watched Parliment today , and what a JOKE!
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