Why wear gloves?
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Nearly forty years ago gory pictures of nylon socks moulded into aircrew feet were common cause in the RAF.
We next saw similar injuries from the R.N. during the Falklands.
We next saw similar injuries from the R.N. during the Falklands.
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Originally posted by ProfessionalStudent
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A good compromise would be a thin, cotton, long-sleeved roll neck (a bit like ours, but maybe a bit less olive drab), over the polyester, short-sleeved M&S shirt.
Originally posted by mojocvh
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dunno about that bit............sounds a bit "melty"
I agree that in this context using "over" when making a comprison is a little confusing! Rather than "over", I should have less amibiguously written "rather than".
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A good compromise would be a thin, cotton, long-sleeved roll neck (a bit like ours, but maybe a bit less olive drab), over the polyester, short-sleeved M&S shirt.
Originally posted by mojocvh
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dunno about that bit............sounds a bit "melty"
I agree that in this context using "over" when making a comprison is a little confusing! Rather than "over", I should have less amibiguously written "rather than".
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They're an absolute must for getting a nice steaming-hot 'honkers' out of the oven on a Nimrod, or the hot water boiler on an E-3.
But seriously, if you have ever had an in-flight fire, then boy will you be glad you're wearing them then! I've had 2 cabin fires (both on Nimrods) and the natural instinct was to just 'bash' them out with my hands. It worked thankfully, and all my little pinkies are still separate and not welded together!
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They're an absolute must for getting a nice steaming-hot 'honkers' out of the oven on a Nimrod, or the hot water boiler on an E-3.
But seriously, if you have ever had an in-flight fire, then boy will you be glad you're wearing them then! I've had 2 cabin fires (both on Nimrods) and the natural instinct was to just 'bash' them out with my hands. It worked thankfully, and all my little pinkies are still separate and not welded together!
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One other little point my GP has raised with me.
He's noticed signs of skin damage on the back of my hands which he attributes to 35 years of flying in gliders and light aircraft. He has recommended using gloves for that reason.
He's noticed signs of skin damage on the back of my hands which he attributes to 35 years of flying in gliders and light aircraft. He has recommended using gloves for that reason.
Hmmm all good points, I wear gloves when flying Mil and Civvy probably cause I have ony ever worn gloves being mil trained. I simply feel uncomfortable not wearing them. Fire, yes that s a biggy plus the fact that aircraft of most kinds ( not big fluffy 747) are bloody minging and Mil ones tend to have oil all over them (good thing means they have some in to leak) and you never quite know what the pilot before you was doing for all those boring hours over the oggin
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A while ago, someone took a swab sample from the control column of a Civil Transport aircraft and analysed it, then produced a report. Amongst other delightful discoveries there were a few dozen findings of urine (from different sources).
Delightful stuff so keep your gloves folks. I do remember seeing a few pilots wearing gloves on civy a/c. Most were ex forces, or perhaps they had read the above report.
Temps.
Delightful stuff so keep your gloves folks. I do remember seeing a few pilots wearing gloves on civy a/c. Most were ex forces, or perhaps they had read the above report.
Temps.
We wear gloves so we don't leave fingerprints on the switches!
...and we wear silky French knickers for the wonderful sense of freedom...
...and we wear silky French knickers for the wonderful sense of freedom...
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'But seriously, if you have ever had an in-flight fire, then boy will you be glad you're wearing them then! I've had 2 cabin fires (both on Nimrods) and the natural instinct was to just 'bash' them out with my hands.'
Burnt the toast again??
Another reason to wear them is that they keep your hands warm...... it's an issue in some military aircraft, especially helicopters when operating in the field.
Whatever you do about flying clothing, DO NOT buy one of those dangers to your health and safety, namely a 100% nylon 'flying' jacket, as advertised by one very well known UK vendor of goods aviation. Unless, if the worst ever happens, you don't mind superheated, melted nylon embedded in your flesh, making what might have been a minor injury into a third degree burn.
Or anything else made of 100% nylon unless you like the thought of skin grafts... It should be banned!
Some years ago I worked for an SAR unit that issued these jackets. I never wore mine. A crewman I used to fly with got his melted onto his hands after getting involved in a bush fire. Now they wear 100% Nomex.
Burnt the toast again??
Another reason to wear them is that they keep your hands warm...... it's an issue in some military aircraft, especially helicopters when operating in the field.
Whatever you do about flying clothing, DO NOT buy one of those dangers to your health and safety, namely a 100% nylon 'flying' jacket, as advertised by one very well known UK vendor of goods aviation. Unless, if the worst ever happens, you don't mind superheated, melted nylon embedded in your flesh, making what might have been a minor injury into a third degree burn.
Or anything else made of 100% nylon unless you like the thought of skin grafts... It should be banned!
Some years ago I worked for an SAR unit that issued these jackets. I never wore mine. A crewman I used to fly with got his melted onto his hands after getting involved in a bush fire. Now they wear 100% Nomex.
They have other, surprising uses too. For example, carrying someone's recently-separated testicle. Tom slipped while stepping over a barbed wire fence on patrol in the Emerald Toilet.
I swear you could hear his screams over the transmission whine all the way back to MPH.
I swear you could hear his screams over the transmission whine all the way back to MPH.
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With the greatest of respect, may I refer you to this website and its presentation on crash survival, gory though it is?
Among other things, it explains that wearing gloves might mean that you still have hands after a fire.
Here is a hint: If you fly an aircraft with a passenger between you and the door (eg.Piper, Decathlon) you had better be wearing gloves.
http://www.angtec.ang.af.mil/spruance/Frameset.htm
Among other things, it explains that wearing gloves might mean that you still have hands after a fire.
Here is a hint: If you fly an aircraft with a passenger between you and the door (eg.Piper, Decathlon) you had better be wearing gloves.
http://www.angtec.ang.af.mil/spruance/Frameset.htm
I always wore them in case I had to shake hands with one of those grubby engineering oiks
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A sad but true tale. An experienced Australian pilot in Indonesia insisted on wearing shorts and short sleeved shirts for flying as they were more comfortable in the heat than 'longs' and long sleeved shirts. Coming out of a clearing one day the engine fails, (Bell47G - piston engine/avgas etc.), heavy landing, aircraft caught fire, the engineer who was a pax managed to get out and drag the pilot out, engineer minor burns and bruises but the pilot died two days later from serious burns to his arms and legs, well over 50% of the body.
Totally different subject. Ladies wearing nylon stockings and/or panties tend to burn themselves when evacuating an aircraft down a slide! Seen it happen in practise drills.
Totally different subject. Ladies wearing nylon stockings and/or panties tend to burn themselves when evacuating an aircraft down a slide! Seen it happen in practise drills.
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Fg gloves are also a good way of preventing a particularly nasty injury called 'de-gloving', which is what happens when you catch a wedding ring on a piece of metal and tear the skin inside-out....
Not nice to experience (or see) as it can look as though a red glove has been partly removed.....
Not nice to experience (or see) as it can look as though a red glove has been partly removed.....