New Command?
I have just seen the e-mail with attached Power Point presentation. This consists of 2 slides, the first is the organisational chart and the second has the title 'Cultural Web'. This slide is a series of interwoven circles, each with their own title and list. Three that stand out are 'Rituals & Myths', Paradigm' and 'Symbols'. The whole slant seems to be on service ethos and having appropriate badges.
I have read through the associated supporting paperwork and have reached the following conclusion.
BOLLOCKS.
So glad I am out of it. If this is what the airships are wasting their time with then they should be sacked, the lot of them.
I say again
BOLLOCKS.
This is only surpassed by the glossy brochure that I saw last week in which there were pages and pages of managementspeak talking about how many deployable assets we had. Also covered future 'high end warfare'.
Is anybody at the MOD/Air Command actually busying themselves with the TWO wars CURRENTLY being fought?
All together now.....BOL..............
I have read through the associated supporting paperwork and have reached the following conclusion.
BOLLOCKS.
So glad I am out of it. If this is what the airships are wasting their time with then they should be sacked, the lot of them.
I say again
BOLLOCKS.
This is only surpassed by the glossy brochure that I saw last week in which there were pages and pages of managementspeak talking about how many deployable assets we had. Also covered future 'high end warfare'.
Is anybody at the MOD/Air Command actually busying themselves with the TWO wars CURRENTLY being fought?
All together now.....BOL..............
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Originally Posted by nigegilb
Gotcha, it's just that engender means to bring into existence, so I was trying to figure out how you bring something into existence more widely. Hate to think that the trained audience might be confused by the new mission aims, or that they just sit there nodding.
I notice another definition of engender is to procreate:
Originally Posted by dictionary.com
en·gen·der 
/ɛnˈdʒɛndər/Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[en-jen-der]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object) 1.to produce, cause, or give rise to: Hatred engenders violence. 2.to beget; procreate. –verb (used without object) 3.to be produced or caused; come into existence: Conditions for a war were engendering in Europe.
/ɛnˈdʒɛndər/Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[en-jen-der]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation–verb (used with object) 1.to produce, cause, or give rise to: Hatred engenders violence. 2.to beget; procreate. –verb (used without object) 3.to be produced or caused; come into existence: Conditions for a war were engendering in Europe.
As for the trained audience being confused with the new mission aims, it might help to begin with if they used English. I often wonder how much of this colourful, yet pointless, use of English has to do with appearing to be more erudite than the next man. Yet I think it achieves the opposite and alienates people on the shop floor, who give up with the smart a$$ new initiatives that change nothing.
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Meanwhile in the real world, I along with many other civilians continue to fight for more protection for RAF aircraft. What the f**k are all the top brass doing? Do they think we do this for fun? Why don't they get off their a***s and do something about it?
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I'm rather a long way away at the moment and so I don't have access to any of the official info (although it sounds like I haven't missed much). Can someone confirm something for me:
Old system:
C-in-C STC: 4*
C-in-C PTC: 3*
New system:
C-in-C Air Comd: 4*
C-in-C STC: 3*
C-in-C PTC: 3*
Gaining 3 stars was an unintended consequence I'm sure!
Old system:
C-in-C STC: 4*
C-in-C PTC: 3*
New system:
C-in-C Air Comd: 4*
C-in-C STC: 3*
C-in-C PTC: 3*
Gaining 3 stars was an unintended consequence I'm sure!
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Is anybody at the MOD/Air Command actually busying themselves with the TWO wars CURRENTLY being fought?
After all, even paper success has many parents but failure is an orphan.
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Having observed an increase in AMs, how about this from the latest MoD JOBs;
Job Posting: SO1 Co-ord
Job Title: Business Management
Salary Administration Plan: Royal Air Force
Location: RAF Cranwell
Reference: 331764
Salary Grade: Air Commodore
Posting Type: External
The successful applicant will be expected to wear the uniform of a Wg Cdr. You will note that he will be paid as an Air Cmdr.
Totally an aside to the Thread but interesting, I thought. This is UNCLAS, before anyone starts.
Job Posting: SO1 Co-ord
Job Title: Business Management
Salary Administration Plan: Royal Air Force
Location: RAF Cranwell
Reference: 331764
Salary Grade: Air Commodore
Posting Type: External
The successful applicant will be expected to wear the uniform of a Wg Cdr. You will note that he will be paid as an Air Cmdr.
Totally an aside to the Thread but interesting, I thought. This is UNCLAS, before anyone starts.
Nope. Sorry Clude but you have missed one out:
Old system:
CinC STC 4*
DCinC STC 3*
CinC PTC 3*
New system:
CinC Air 4*
DCinC Ops 3*
DCinC Support 3*
= No change.
Now who will give me odds on how long it takes for someone to come up with 2 commands: Ops Command (actually let's call it Strike Command - punchy that) and, I don't know, Support Command?
Old system:
CinC STC 4*
DCinC STC 3*
CinC PTC 3*
New system:
CinC Air 4*
DCinC Ops 3*
DCinC Support 3*
= No change.
Now who will give me odds on how long it takes for someone to come up with 2 commands: Ops Command (actually let's call it Strike Command - punchy that) and, I don't know, Support Command?
Don't be too hard on them - transformation and constant change in the HQ should be encouraged - it's a good substitute for the high paid help actually achieving anything.
Wonder if they'll get any new office furniture for the new HQ?
I believe the MOD furniture catalogue has 2 sorts of office chair for the 2 sorts of senior officer found to flourish under Noo Labour. One is a bit like a broken deckchair which folds at the first sign of pressure whilst the other just goes round and round in circles
Wonder if they'll get any new office furniture for the new HQ?
I believe the MOD furniture catalogue has 2 sorts of office chair for the 2 sorts of senior officer found to flourish under Noo Labour. One is a bit like a broken deckchair which folds at the first sign of pressure whilst the other just goes round and round in circles
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It cannot be named STRIKE command. It was changed from Bomber Command, in anticipation of replacement of bombers with ounchy new jets like TSR2 or F111 or AFVG or . . .
No longer bomber but nuclear weapons carriers. The term Strike applied to nuclear missions and Attack to conventional missions. Ever since the RAF lost its nuclear strike mission the Command name was obsolete. It should have become Operations or Attack Command years ago.
Can't be Operations Command however in case it got confused with Operations Group that a Commonwealth Country used to have - an then calls for it to be commanded by a GROUP Captain
No longer bomber but nuclear weapons carriers. The term Strike applied to nuclear missions and Attack to conventional missions. Ever since the RAF lost its nuclear strike mission the Command name was obsolete. It should have become Operations or Attack Command years ago.
Can't be Operations Command however in case it got confused with Operations Group that a Commonwealth Country used to have - an then calls for it to be commanded by a GROUP Captain
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Why not just call it "RAF HQ"?
I can see where this wider transition of the armed forces is rapidly leading. Naming the new RAF organisation "Air Command" falls into line with the changes to "HQ Fleet" and "Land Command". Those names clearly signify that they will be just 3 Commands within a single entity known as the British Armed Forces - or should we call it the British Defence Force?
I think the real losers here will be the Chiefs of Staff. All the time they had multiple TLB holders working for them, they seemed to have a reason for their existence. However, if they each have only one TLB holder in future, and at the same rank as well, their reason for existence seems a bit dubious.
CDS - 4*
CAS - 4*
C-in-C Air - 4*
All we now need to do is change the colour of our uniforms so that they all match, and we really will have a single defence force. However, I'm sure we won't actually do that as it would cost too much money, but it would certainly stop all the stupid bit(hing about absorbing one Service into another.
I can see where this wider transition of the armed forces is rapidly leading. Naming the new RAF organisation "Air Command" falls into line with the changes to "HQ Fleet" and "Land Command". Those names clearly signify that they will be just 3 Commands within a single entity known as the British Armed Forces - or should we call it the British Defence Force?
I think the real losers here will be the Chiefs of Staff. All the time they had multiple TLB holders working for them, they seemed to have a reason for their existence. However, if they each have only one TLB holder in future, and at the same rank as well, their reason for existence seems a bit dubious.
CDS - 4*
CAS - 4*
C-in-C Air - 4*
All we now need to do is change the colour of our uniforms so that they all match, and we really will have a single defence force. However, I'm sure we won't actually do that as it would cost too much money, but it would certainly stop all the stupid bit(hing about absorbing one Service into another.
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I Know how about "Fighter Command" and then "Bomber Command" all under the "Command" or "Air Command" who would then deal with "Logistics" Command and "Personnel" Command, Brilliant saved an absolute packet on the Defence Budget!!
Oh Been there done that!!
Oh Been there done that!!
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most importantly: will there be a new crest/badge? 
And Sgt Bilko's captionless photo?
"CinC watches his command fight it out in the new Total Air Force simulator"
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Still nothing on the Intranet website about this momentous change. Wonder if the CinC knows?
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New Command
I was wondering in Sgt Bilko's Photo of the New "Air Command" CinC's simulator photo, whether the big flashing red light was to show that a Typhoon was ready for service.....in "Fighter" Command or is it a light that flashes to show the latest PVR to hit the desk.
or is it a light that flashes to show the latest PVR to hit the desk.
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