What happened to Typhoon F1
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What happened to Typhoon F1
Anyone know why the Typhoon is already in the Mk F2 version? What happend to F1? I must have slept during that part of the presentation.S
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Typhoon, like most British mil ac is numbered sequentially; Typhoon T1, Typhoon F2. Harrier GR3, Harrier T4, Harrier GR 5 et seq.
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Thanks Kitbag, Obvious, must have had a blond moment. We started with the trainer whereas the Harrier went GR1, T2, GR3,T4, GR5 etc started with the war fighter.
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It would surely have been horribly expensive to update the old T Mk 4 cockpit to GR7 standard? Or would it have been just a T4 with night attack avionic bolt ons? Presumably it would have put the T10 programme in jeopardy?
Sorry - back to TypHoons. Will the multi-role version be the F2 as well?
Good to learn that they'll soon be doing Southern Q. Maybe down to 1435 Flt at RAF Mount Pleasant for cold weather ops in a couple of months' time?
It would surely have been horribly expensive to update the old T Mk 4 cockpit to GR7 standard? Or would it have been just a T4 with night attack avionic bolt ons? Presumably it would have put the T10 programme in jeopardy?
Sorry - back to TypHoons. Will the multi-role version be the F2 as well?
Good to learn that they'll soon be doing Southern Q. Maybe down to 1435 Flt at RAF Mount Pleasant for cold weather ops in a couple of months' time?
For those who haven't been there, Jun 25, FIxmas day, is in the Austral winter. Dark, wet, cold, and windy. A good testing environment for the new electric jet therefore. Perhaps more so than Las Vegas in springtime?
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"Typhoon, like most British mil ac is numbered sequentially; Typhoon T1, Typhoon F2. Harrier GR3, Harrier T4, Harrier GR 5 et seq."
Ah, sigh.
Darbouy is old enough to remember when we had a proper RAF and none of this pretend Army Bllx. 
Then we seemed to have a G, and GR, and an F, and a P, and a T version of almost every sort of frame we used to operate. "Yes, OK Bloggs, a T7 what? Be more specific, lad!"
Ah, the days when just one frame type was in, say, the F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, and F6 version
No horrid Army greens, no IPT shyte, no dishonest lean drivel, and a good, clean, mutually assured destruction that could have lasted in stasis forever. Zillions of proper, normal, RAF Stations, any one of which would be the, unremarkable, size of the new gosh wow superbases
Both sides happy, them with their tank army facing west and us with good flying in the better parts of the Empire, sorry, Commonwealth,
Oh, yes! And I still think Treble 1 was a very class act that just was grand. All them shiny black Hunters all up in the sky at one time doing super things; but I digress
Ah, sigh.
Darbouy is old enough to remember when we had a proper RAF and none of this pretend Army Bllx. Then we seemed to have a G, and GR, and an F, and a P, and a T version of almost every sort of frame we used to operate. "Yes, OK Bloggs, a T7 what? Be more specific, lad!"
Ah, the days when just one frame type was in, say, the F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, and F6 version
No horrid Army greens, no IPT shyte, no dishonest lean drivel, and a good, clean, mutually assured destruction that could have lasted in stasis forever. Zillions of proper, normal, RAF Stations, any one of which would be the, unremarkable, size of the new gosh wow superbases
Both sides happy, them with their tank army facing west and us with good flying in the better parts of the Empire, sorry, Commonwealth,
Oh, yes! And I still think Treble 1 was a very class act that just was grand. All them shiny black Hunters all up in the sky at one time doing super things; but I digress
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Mind you, wasn't there some doubt just which way Poland and East Germany would have faced.
Indeed, only sad spotters called it the Phantom F3!
It was certainly the Phantom F4J(UK). All were tanked across the pond by the then new VC10K2 (the K3 wasn't then in service) in 1984-5 on the epic Op Tiger Trails!
I did Tiger Trail 3 in Nov 84. A hellish 11 days in the USandA. Outbound via Wright-Patt to Miramar, then 3 days off in the Holiday Inn, Harbor Drive San Diego whilst the guys in North Island got the ex-boneyard F4Js ready. So we did Seaworld, Laguna Beach, Universal Studios, Hollywood, Pacifice Beach. When we left Miramar on the Monday we lost an engine, so back to Miramar and then on to W-Patt in the route support Herc...
. A day off in Dayton to wait for another jet coming over from the UK to pick up the trail. And another day off due to bad Wx...CHING! Then off from Dayton (pods in those days weren't cleared for JP4!) to RV with the F4s and on to Goose; home the next day.
This was part of the conversion course with 101 Sqn TTF - Tanker Training Flight. Or rather 'Tiger Trails and Filton' in those days!
The F4J(UK) was often flown in Bravo fit (no Fletcher tanks, just a centreline) to take advantage of its better performance at height compared to the FGR2. 74(F) adored their jets and were a very proficient squadron. I recall one AAR slot (always 30 min in those days!) - 2 x F4Js in Bravo fit turned up, plugged in, took their gas and went.....all in about 5 minutes! Very impressive tanking indeed!
It was certainly the Phantom F4J(UK). All were tanked across the pond by the then new VC10K2 (the K3 wasn't then in service) in 1984-5 on the epic Op Tiger Trails!
I did Tiger Trail 3 in Nov 84. A hellish 11 days in the USandA. Outbound via Wright-Patt to Miramar, then 3 days off in the Holiday Inn, Harbor Drive San Diego whilst the guys in North Island got the ex-boneyard F4Js ready. So we did Seaworld, Laguna Beach, Universal Studios, Hollywood, Pacifice Beach. When we left Miramar on the Monday we lost an engine, so back to Miramar and then on to W-Patt in the route support Herc...
. A day off in Dayton to wait for another jet coming over from the UK to pick up the trail. And another day off due to bad Wx...CHING! Then off from Dayton (pods in those days weren't cleared for JP4!) to RV with the F4s and on to Goose; home the next day.This was part of the conversion course with 101 Sqn TTF - Tanker Training Flight. Or rather 'Tiger Trails and Filton' in those days!
The F4J(UK) was often flown in Bravo fit (no Fletcher tanks, just a centreline) to take advantage of its better performance at height compared to the FGR2. 74(F) adored their jets and were a very proficient squadron. I recall one AAR slot (always 30 min in those days!) - 2 x F4Js in Bravo fit turned up, plugged in, took their gas and went.....all in about 5 minutes! Very impressive tanking indeed!
"Typhoon, like most British mil ac is numbered sequentially; Typhoon T1, Typhoon F2. Harrier GR3, Harrier T4, Harrier GR 5 et seq."
Ah, sigh. Darbouy is old enough to remember when we had a proper RAF and none of this pretend Army Bllx.
Ah, sigh.
Darbouy is old enough to remember when we had a proper RAF and none of this pretend Army Bllx.
Ray,
Can you really remember the days before RAF aircraft marks were designated like this? Right back in WWII, we had Spitfire F.VIII, LF.IX, PR.XIX, Lancaster B.I, Mosquito NF.II, FB.VI etc - the only thing that seems to have changed is that the numbers have been dumbed down from Roman numerals to Arabic (and we've got rid of the nasty B for Bomber designation - G is evidently much more touchy-feely and PC when hurling bombs and missiles onto foreign countries various...)
TOTD