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Thanks 2Close, for spotting a "Walt"
Thanks, 2Close. For sure, we've got a Walt at work. The guys were talking at lunchtime today about Canada's military mission in Afghanistan. And boy, oh boy, did the new guy ever "Walt" into that one. Not that anyone even gave a hoot about what he did almost 40 years ago, but he starts talking about how when he was based in Quebec back in 1970, he had to patrol the perimeter of the base, all by himself (of course - tough enough to be sent out by himself I guess
) armed with a machine gun that could cut a guy in half. Why'd you have to do that, asks one of the young guys? Oh man, it was because French terrorists were trying to overthrow the government.
Then somebody else said, I never heard of that. I heard there were a couple of kidnappings and a murder back then but then the police cracked down on it pretty quickly. Then, and here's the kicker, one of the other retired military guys said, quietly and in a tone that suggested he knew what he was talking about, "I find it kind of odd that an airplane mechanic would be put on guard duty around a Canadian base. That's a job that the Military Police would've typically been assigned and if there was any real threat to the base, the army would've be called in to patrol the perimeter."
You should've seen the look on old Stan's face. He blushed and got this "I'm lost" look on his face, and smiled weakly and kind of chuckled. Then this young guy, without missing a beat, said, hey, "we've got Rambo here"! And everybody cracked up. I suspect we won't be hearing many more "Walt" stories any more.
) armed with a machine gun that could cut a guy in half. Why'd you have to do that, asks one of the young guys? Oh man, it was because French terrorists were trying to overthrow the government. Then somebody else said, I never heard of that. I heard there were a couple of kidnappings and a murder back then but then the police cracked down on it pretty quickly. Then, and here's the kicker, one of the other retired military guys said, quietly and in a tone that suggested he knew what he was talking about, "I find it kind of odd that an airplane mechanic would be put on guard duty around a Canadian base. That's a job that the Military Police would've typically been assigned and if there was any real threat to the base, the army would've be called in to patrol the perimeter."
You should've seen the look on old Stan's face. He blushed and got this "I'm lost" look on his face, and smiled weakly and kind of chuckled. Then this young guy, without missing a beat, said, hey, "we've got Rambo here"! And everybody cracked up. I suspect we won't be hearing many more "Walt" stories any more.
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Yip, Curious One, I can sort of back your oppos up on that - although a slightly different decade. 1987 - BATUS (British Army Training Unit Suffield), near Medicine Hat, Alberta, I was working the night shift with the Canadian MPs (not RCAF techies) when we had to carry out a patrol of the nearby ammunition compound.
The compound itself which, as I recall, did have a guardroom at the gate, is about the size of the UK and surrounded by a fairly high but not unclimbable barbed wire fence and is full of well secured, hard storage bunkers. But the live ammo for the following day's fun and games is all out on pallets - shedloads of the stuff, 9mm, 7.62mm, 84mm, 120mm for the tankies, you name it, it was there, all out in the open and insecure.
Was there a patrolling guard in sight, with a personal weapon capable of cutting anyone in half?............Nope, not one Rambo to be seen, not even Son of Rambo, Rambo II, Rambo III or Rambo's pet budgie!
But then again, this was the responsibility of the British Army and it was raining!
But it does seem like your Walt has been outed!
Hang on........I've gone off thread......sorry lads, thread hijacker on the loose.......cut him in half, quick.....even better, chuck him in a jet intake!
The compound itself which, as I recall, did have a guardroom at the gate, is about the size of the UK and surrounded by a fairly high but not unclimbable barbed wire fence and is full of well secured, hard storage bunkers. But the live ammo for the following day's fun and games is all out on pallets - shedloads of the stuff, 9mm, 7.62mm, 84mm, 120mm for the tankies, you name it, it was there, all out in the open and insecure.
Was there a patrolling guard in sight, with a personal weapon capable of cutting anyone in half?............Nope, not one Rambo to be seen, not even Son of Rambo, Rambo II, Rambo III or Rambo's pet budgie!
But then again, this was the responsibility of the British Army and it was raining!
But it does seem like your Walt has been outed!
Hang on........I've gone off thread......sorry lads, thread hijacker on the loose.......cut him in half, quick.....even better, chuck him in a jet intake!
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Tourist, agree. Even with a nuc we only reckoned on 400 metres. 120 m deep though 
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2Close, you crack me up
2Close, I am laughing my f***ing a**e off over your last post. Things are pretty tame in Canada compared to the rest of the world. And old Walt at my workplace is a harmless enough chap. So let him have his old "war stories", I say. I figure the young chaps have him sorted out right - and to be honest, he seems to relish being called Rambo. LOL
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I don't know about the jet blast being able to bowl someone over, but I do remember an accident some years ago with a Ba 146 at Hatfield. The technician was in front of the aircraft when the throttles were advanced. Witnesses reported that the man rose in the air was stationary for about a second then rotated to the horizontal position and was sucked headfirst into the intake. Unlike the chap in the utube video he was killed instantly. I still have the film report of the incident.
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PWA, happened on other aircraft too but I shall spare you the details.
On jet blast however, at Scampton, in the 60s the sqn cdr 'hurled' the QRA staff car on to the dispersal and the crew leapt out and boarded the jet. Before the policeman could move the car the aircraft started engines.
After the practice alert was over the QRA car, a one-ton Standard Vanguard estate, was some 100 yards behind the aircraft having been rolled several times by the jet blast.
On jet blast however, at Scampton, in the 60s the sqn cdr 'hurled' the QRA staff car on to the dispersal and the crew leapt out and boarded the jet. Before the policeman could move the car the aircraft started engines.
After the practice alert was over the QRA car, a one-ton Standard Vanguard estate, was some 100 yards behind the aircraft having been rolled several times by the jet blast.
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Intake hazards, they are for real. A Danish tech. died in an F-86D intake. Totally I would suggest 50/50 of victims survived? Exhausts - A/B (reheat) - or not. Dangerous, but maybe not so lethal. Some time in the 70'ties or 80'ties the Station Commander of RDAF Vaerloese waved "Good bye" to Yugoslav President Tito and his Caravelle. He, the colonel, was rolled across the ramp, by the exhaust and "farewell" Slipowitch! 
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Some years ago "Aeroplane Monthly" (?) had a similar question on prop strikes. Most died, or lost an arm or a leg, but one lucky fellow "walked" straight through the propeller arc of an idling Wellington unscathed. Turned white and fainted!
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P.S. My father was a "prop-swinger". (T-6/Harvard etc.)
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Dunno about prop strikes, Never went near em. I did have a habit of carrying a 12" GS in my pocket whenever I did an intake inspection, the bloke that taught me the habit reckoned if someone did manage to start the damn jet up it would buy him enough time to get it jammed in the LP fan and back out the intake, most sooties are too fat to turn round in the intake, also there is the small matter of the strake and if you weren't extremely careful you'd be lighter on exit by two test tickles
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If it's broken its because you let a pilot touch it!!!
.If it's broken its because you let a pilot touch it!!!
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1. Windy hill, Lightnings, early 80's. Reheat lit by a "Hot Shot" of fuel pumped thru turbine, engines staggered with one short jet pipe & one long one. Long one needed help as the flame was too weak to light so they designed a "hot streak" injector to keep the flame alight. When there was a reheat light up problem the best way to diag it was wait till dark (easier to see and all the big boys had gone home!!) take the jet over the open chocks by the detuner. Someone would run the jet and 2 people would sit in a landrover a hundred feet or so behind. On the signal you would engage first gear, watch the jet pipe for the hot shot and hot streak flames, rev the engine like f&ck and dump the clutch before the reheat lit !! Get it wrong and it became hot and unpleasant !!
2. APC Cyprus
, same outfit. Borrowed a Jamacan liney from LTF for the det. Insisted on wearing a woolen multicoloured hat on the line. Walked directly behind a jet waiting to taxi... just changed direction thru 90 degress and became a human candle wheel... hat one way, ear defs the other, skinned knees and elbows.....
3. Same outfit, Big det at St Andrews F4 home, 4 Lightnings on the ORP providing QRA cover. Survival scramble at the end of a great week. Ours were gone in under a minute.. few mins later the Tooms start to taxi out and depart. Many minutes later a scraggler appears on his own (crew in snag I guess). We lined up on the edge of the ORP & runway and polity applauded him for his efforts. He suddenly turned towards us, taxied in, swung his arse to us as he was level and opened the throttle, kicked himself level, engaged reheat and took off with the Nav giving a farewell "Salute" with his middle finger. As we saw him descending on us we run away bravely and tried to hide behind the Huchins. No good. All of us, the steps, covers and other ground equipment were scattered to the winds. Anyone out there remember this one ??
HH2
2. APC Cyprus
, same outfit. Borrowed a Jamacan liney from LTF for the det. Insisted on wearing a woolen multicoloured hat on the line. Walked directly behind a jet waiting to taxi... just changed direction thru 90 degress and became a human candle wheel... hat one way, ear defs the other, skinned knees and elbows.....3. Same outfit, Big det at St Andrews F4 home, 4 Lightnings on the ORP providing QRA cover. Survival scramble at the end of a great week. Ours were gone in under a minute.. few mins later the Tooms start to taxi out and depart. Many minutes later a scraggler appears on his own (crew in snag I guess). We lined up on the edge of the ORP & runway and polity applauded him for his efforts. He suddenly turned towards us, taxied in, swung his arse to us as he was level and opened the throttle, kicked himself level, engaged reheat and took off with the Nav giving a farewell "Salute" with his middle finger. As we saw him descending on us we run away bravely and tried to hide behind the Huchins. No good. All of us, the steps, covers and other ground equipment were scattered to the winds. Anyone out there remember this one ??
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Aussie ADF"walt" ---in a class of his own !
Norhing to do with ground runs I'm afraid, but as Walts go, clearly, as with Cricket and Rugby, our Aussie friends beat us hands down it appears !.
A few red faces in the ADF I would guess.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/...034720,00.html
A few red faces in the ADF I would guess.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/...034720,00.html
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Norhing to do with ground runs I'm afraid
You're right.
But he definitely looks the part ... Glad to see the AVM drinking beer from the bottle. I was severely reprimanded by my SATCO, a Major, on doing the same in the 80'ties, when invited to the Officers' Mess. 
Palle J. C., Warrant Officer, ATCO.
You're right.
But he definitely looks the part ... Glad to see the AVM drinking beer from the bottle. I was severely reprimanded by my SATCO, a Major, on doing the same in the 80'ties, when invited to the Officers' Mess. Palle J. C., Warrant Officer, ATCO.
