Iranian Sniper Rifles Iraq

[West Coast]

"triggerman in Stackers"

As mentioned by brick, a terrorist or murderer. I don't hold the UK or anyone else as the guilty party because Richard Reid, a Brit tried to blow up a US aircraft.

[vecvechookattack]

But the key difference, gentlemen, is that the government didn't supply the Barretts.

Exactly....and neither did they train them how to use them....Opppss

[brickhistory]

Exactly....and neither did they train them how to use them....Opppss

?Que? Are you stating that the American government, not some Americans, but that official America trained some IRA gunmen for that purpose? If not, then I didn't follow your post.
I'd REALLY like to see some proof or even some legitimate news stories to that effect.

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edited to add:

vvk, ah, I see your post below, dense skull on me, sorry.

[Washington_Irving]

Maple 01

Look up Op El Dorado Canyon.

Then remember the fun and games the F14s had in the Gulf of Sidra in the 1980s.

[vecvechookattack]

Noooo...I meant to say it was the British Govt that trained the Iranians.

[brickhistory]

Look up Op El Dorado Canyon.

Then remember the fun and games the F14s had in the Gulf of Sidra in the 1980s.

Also look up the Berlin night club bombing preceding El Dorado Canyon.

Admittedly, in my opinion, while the Gulf of Sidra event was designed to spank the Libyans, the principle was freedom of navigation in international waters. Seems no one else would do it.

F-14s 4, Su's 0.

[Washington_Irving]

Brickhistory- Op Attain Document III, March 1986.

All part of the Great Game.

[Tigs2]

This is all utterly pathetic.
Loads of OUR (i.e collective) boys and girls have been killed by munitions supplied by many forces (and none of them manufactured by the Iraqis). American guns and bullets, british guns and bullets, russian guns and bullets - get the picture!! We find stuff by the Iranians and its a big problem - BULL****! The super powers supply arms to everyone, and if they dont then the other ones will. Makes me real mad There are NO saints when it comes to arms and war, and the people on this thread should know better!! Believe me if our troops would have been killed in Iraq by biologocal or chemical weapons, they WOULD have been supplied by the Brits and Americans. Are we all living in cloud F*****g cuckoo land!!

[Load Toad]

We have to stop thinking in terms of Iran & Iraq etc and think of it as Shia / Sunni / tribe etc. Because post the removal of the evil Saddam and the Ba'ath party dictators that is what now exists.
So it isn't remotely surprising that the Iranian Shia will support their brethren in 'Iraq' and it is also not surprising that there is a unity evolving between the tribes to remove the foreign invaders.

[XV277]

Believe me if our troops would have been killed in Iraq by biologocal or chemical weapons,

More likely by the French or Germans, but the concept is the same.

[Maple 01]

Look up Op El Dorado Canyon.

Don't need to, I was working that night - how many F1-11s going external UK? Closely followed by 'Maple, pack a bag you're off to Cyprus', which then got canx at the last min
Still not an invasion, more a subtle hint, you'll have to do better than that if you plan to convince anyone that Uncle Sam is a force for world evil

We find stuff by the Iranians and its a big problem - BULL****!

I have to call your bull@hit there Tigs, the difference is that the UK and US didn't put much in the way of arms into Iraq (don't make me get my i-spy chart of weapons shipments 1970-2003 out) Nor did they supply them directly to 'insurgents' with a training package as our Iranian chums seem to have done. that makes them very naughty and eligible for a minor smiteing if they don't wind their necks in IMO

[Two's in]

The point of my post was simply to highlight the issue that Tigs also makes - some poor bastard gets wasted in a country he shouldn't be in, by a thug who doesn't even know where the USA is, using some spiffy munitions that came in through Iran via a bunch of Arms dealers for profit, and suddenly we have the evidence that it's an international conspiracy led by Mahmoud I'm-a-Loony.

The fact that CIA have sponsored/led insurgencies for the last 50 years in (insert name of Marxist Regime here) and have killed thousands and displaced millions, seems to have escaped the notice of these political commentators who so desperately want Iran's finger to be on the trigger of the smoking gun. By the way, the Brits, French, Germans, Russians etc, etc, are all at this game, we just don't seem to be as willing to make the facts fit our version of democracy as George's boys.

I personally don't give a fat rat's ass which bottom dwellers want to believe all this machiavellian horse ****e about who has supplied the particular means of death to the masses, but the least they can do is know when their chains are being yanked (no pun intended).

[Washington_Irving]

Originally Posted by Maple 01

Still not an invasion, more a subtle hint, you'll have to do better than that if you plan to convince anyone that Uncle Sam is a force for world evil

Wasn't trying to do anything of the sort. I was just pointing out that nobody's whiter than white and to bleat on about Austria, Iran or whoever else being unreasonable is just hypocrisy. Good and evil are terribly subjective terms and to coin a phrase, where you stand on the issue depends to a large extent on where you sit.

[West Coast]

"depends to a large extent on where you sit"

And if you are sitting in the cross hairs of one of the Iranian supplied rifles....

[Seldomfitforpurpose]

Westy,

"cross hairs of one of the Iranian supplied rifles...." Any chance this irrefutable evidence came from the same reliable source that took our countries to war over Saddam's WMD

[Maple 01]

Shouldn't be too difficult if as Washington says, excuse my return to BASIC

10 IF serial numbers = Iranian export then GOTO 20
20 Smite bastards

[Seldomfitforpurpose]

"Shouldn't be too difficult if as Washington says".............and just remind us all what Washington told us all about the WMD threat.........some of you folks are way too gullible to be outdoors on your own

[Maple 01]

I meant Mr Irving, now, are you saying there were no chemical rounds found in Iraq post invasion?

[Sunray Minor]

Brick,

Don't see why the Iranian's can't buy Austrian weapons. They and many other considerably more despotic nations were/are armed to the teeth by US/UK arms manufacturers (Saudi Arabia being one of them).

The hypocrisy is always intriguing. It seems it's ok to arm anyone so long as the people being killed aren't American. As soon as that happens then all hell breaks loose.

[Maple 01]

Are the Saudis as a matter of policy forwarding arms to insurgents? Seems the Iranians are, and that's the difference