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Old 8th Feb 2007, 18:36
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I was just wondering if anybody else had seen the ITN news this evening, specifically the interview with the neighbour of the A-10 pilot involved in the blue-on-blue.

His attitude was disgusting, exactly the sort of thing that gives the USA a bad press. I can't remember exactly what was said word for word, so I won't quote. It won't do it justice.

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Old 8th Feb 2007, 18:56
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Something along the lines of "The Brits and Europeans are just sat there sucking their thumbs, as they were in the Second World War, until we came to bail them out"

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Angry

I am beginning to find the media shallow, ignorant and intrusive. They obviously feel that they need to appeal to the growing numbers of unintelligent viewers but they have ceased to report news; purely their own self importance, whatever the facts, is presented.

It is clear that a mistake has been made by the A10 crews and their FAC but it was not a deliberate attack on British forces. Blue on Blue, sadly, has happened throughout history and will happen again.

In my time an F4E crew launched a Maverick at us which, fortunately, misbehaved and meandered off to destroy itself. Late 1970s when a lot of Mavericks were found to be unreliable.

I have also been targeted by a Harrier although at the last minute he identified me as friendly.

I will take the press more seriously when they also interview the next door neighbours of the Taliban killers that attack our British guys in Afganistan.

Don't worry, I'm not holding my breath....
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Was wondering how long it would take for this to surface here. I didn't see it all, but I did catch a snippet of his comments.

Without getting in to the rights and wrongs of the situation (or his very dubious version of history) and without wishing to be seen to be having a go at all our colonial bretheren, some of whom are very good personal friends:

What an asolute first rate backwater hillbilly cock. The sooner he stops giving us the benfets of his wisdom and gets back to sucking his thumb with his head up his arse along with all the other do-gooding know-nothing arm chair generals that have the balls to criticize but not quite enough balls to fight, the better.

Rant over
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It wasn't the dreaded 'Dogface' of ARRSE fame was it?
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Old 8th Feb 2007, 20:43
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I hope anyone that hasn't seen it will watch it on the late news. Well said Melchett, I totally agree...

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I saw it. I just wanted to punch his God fearing lights out! I have had a bad day, though.

I also noted that the, now, "full bird" Colonel didn't come across as particularly remorseful; unless that bit was edited out.
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"You guys had better get on board in that whole damn country of yours and along with the rest of Europe" "You gonna go merrily sucking your thumb like you did in WWII" "We dont need your danm help, we need your co-operation. We know its hard to get that. We know you guys cant shoot, move and communicate"

A 'Vietnam Vet' to boot.

And the USA wonders why people don't like them? Allies, let alone enemies.


F'kin hick.

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Sucking your thumbs!

How dare he, how bloody dare he, what he needs is a five fingered boarding party.

Mind you, what on earth are ITN up to? I really don't care to see the Town, Airfield, A10's or even either of the pilots, and especially not a narrow minded fool like that.

Come on ITN, get a grip.
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There are a great many good yanks out there. This one was a f*****g c**k. Ho hum. Also amazing what a bit of editing of a HUD video can do to convey a media company's own agenda!
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Exactly what I thought.

ITN drumming up the usual Daily Mail type of hysteria.
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A 'Vietnam Vet' to boot.
Didn't watch it on ITN, too busy sucking my thumb and trying to find cooperation in the dictionary.

How can somebody who was on the LOSING side in Vietnam lecture us about Iraq ? And as for not needing our help, well git-features, I think you do, because as with 'Nam, you're losing in Iraq too. Only both your and your President's heads are so far up their own arses you can't see that.

If you honestly believe what you are saying, get on a plane, come over here and say if to our faces. Oh no, you won't will you because you're just another pussy happy to sit on the sidelines with the fat wheezy boys and a note from matron - Cnut! Bloody hell, I haven't been this riled for, well since the last time someone took a potshot at me.
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I just wonder how long it took ITN to find a suitable 'Nutcase' and if they (ITN) realize just how much harm they do in putting out such rubbish on a National news channel .......

ITN, a channel that in the days of Andrew Gardner and Reggie Bosanquet etc was a leader in the world of television News ....... they should be ashamed of themselves .....
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Oh dear sasless and his merry band of Vietnam vets will be along to tell you off soon After all it was a great success.
Because failing to bomb a bunch of peasants into submission over a 10 year period followed by a somewhat ignominious exit from theatre with a bunfight on the embassy roof for the last cab out, whilst being chased by said peasants is so obvisouly a victory
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I just saw this tw@t on the late ITV news.

Just another parochial yank (unfortunately, the Country is full of them).

This idiot probably doesn't even know where Iraqistan is

But we should easy on the guy - Boise, Idaho is a long way from civilisation.

And they wonder why they are hated.....
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Speaking of journalists...... and reporting stuff they shouldn't......

I liked the BBC's so called "expert" claiming that the HUD tape had "obviously been censored" when in fact it was just the standard visualisation of a trigger press. Please employ people who know what they are talking about or at least get them to consult people that do before they go spouting utter cr*p!!!

That was yesterday by the way... and slightly unrelated......

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Don't be too hard on them. For every moron there's twenty good'uns. It's just that with the media being like it is, it's the n*bbers who get airtime. Jade Goody anyone?

should probably add I'm talking about Americans not, journos! (Though respect to Jacko! )

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American here, don't get ITN obviously, so didn't see the interview.

Sounds like they got the typical guy they interview after a tornado strike "Well, 'hit sounded lak a freight train......"

So, apologies to those insulted by his comments.

BUT, how is that different to the UK-based barbs regarding the US "being late to the fray in WWI and II?" Some of those from erudite ppruners, not just a British equivalent of a hillbilly.

Or what about those British citizens who blame the US and/or GWB for getting the British into the current garden spots? The UK joined of its own accord. I'm gratefully accepting the comraderie, but the choice was your government's, not the fault of the US.

Trying to tie in Vietnam to this seems a stretch, but giving you that, seems a quick look back at some of the British exits from various spots around the world in the 1940s, '50s, '60s and '70s were not exactly truimphal marches either.

It was vampire journalism for the reporters to stake out his house and interview neighbors, etc. That, unfortunately, seems to be a trait shared by journos/media on both side of the Atlantic.
 
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Depends Brick, are we talking banter or serious insults? Yes some people on both sides are opinionated ignorant toss*rs. But do we really want to add fuel to a fire that is really only a sport for the stupid?

Those of us who know better, know better and shouldn't drop our standards to a moron's level wether said subperson is american, british or other.
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....Yes some people on both sides are opinionated ignorant toss*rs.

Those of us who know better, know better and shouldn't drop our standards to a moron's level wether said subperson is american, british or other.
Rakshasa, absolutely my point. Well said!
 


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