Norway to buy C-130J??? ....and ASAP!????
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Agreed, Major fuselage sections building now in germany. Also understand the wings have been completed here in Blighty. It is taking shape and certainly beyond being a concept. If it wasn't for the pressure of these two idiotic wars I'm sure you chaps would be looking forward to the A400M coming into service.
In the meantime, why not buy a few more Tristars from the desert supermarket as a long haul stop gap. I bet there are a few configured as freighters sitting there. Could that relieve some C130J from flying routes and allow them to do what they were built for? Speaking as somebody who had the fun of flying east of Suez in a whistling wheelbarrow I can see the folly of the 1974 cuts.
I take my hat off to all involved in trying to keep things moving.
In the meantime, why not buy a few more Tristars from the desert supermarket as a long haul stop gap. I bet there are a few configured as freighters sitting there. Could that relieve some C130J from flying routes and allow them to do what they were built for? Speaking as somebody who had the fun of flying east of Suez in a whistling wheelbarrow I can see the folly of the 1974 cuts.
I take my hat off to all involved in trying to keep things moving.
All very childish indeed! However I seem to remember the Chinook out lifting the 'k' in Afganistan quite significantly....
Infact, the 'k' was only lifting 3 tonnes in the heat of the summer, hot and high......
Infact, the 'k' was only lifting 3 tonnes in the heat of the summer, hot and high......
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The buy confirmed today. Norwegian minister of defense Anne-Grete Strøm-Erichsen gave the news at a press conference in Oslo today 25/5.
The deal is going to be for 4 C-130J-30s, the first to reach operational capability in 2009.
I bet the crews at 335Sqn are happy today.
(And the soldiers will be pleased to avoid travel with several semi-dodgy east block charter aircraft.......)
It is going to be a big stink in the parliament over this, but when you allow "communists" into a coalition goverment, that's what you get!
The deal is going to be for 4 C-130J-30s, the first to reach operational capability in 2009.
I bet the crews at 335Sqn are happy today.
(And the soldiers will be pleased to avoid travel with several semi-dodgy east block charter aircraft.......)
It is going to be a big stink in the parliament over this, but when you allow "communists" into a coalition goverment, that's what you get!
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Result for RNAF. Say hello to Lasse if you see him.
PS landed the C130K at 170,000lbs plus into Bagram strip many a time. Full to the brim with fuel for the Chinner mates to use from the bag tanks. It is still an awesome beast!
PS landed the C130K at 170,000lbs plus into Bagram strip many a time. Full to the brim with fuel for the Chinner mates to use from the bag tanks. It is still an awesome beast!
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The 450 million euro (approx) buy was approved in the Norwegian parliament today.
But: The Norwegian MOD allso informed the public that Airbus has run a smear campaign against LM, giving false information about the abilities of the C130J.
Airbus published a memo to the media, and perhaps more importantly to the members of the parliament defense committee, claiming that the C130J came last in all 7 comparison studies performed by the N-MOD. (The studies are classified)
The claim is completely wrong according to the same N-MOD
(Airbus also claimed 2 weeks ago,that the first A400 could be fully operational with the RNoAF in January 2010)
The media has made the misinformation case the major storyline, bringing in a lot of commentators on spin, corruption, lobbying etc.
Still, in the end, good result for the 335Sqn, the governments till is shut tight nowadays. Congrats!
But: The Norwegian MOD allso informed the public that Airbus has run a smear campaign against LM, giving false information about the abilities of the C130J.
Airbus published a memo to the media, and perhaps more importantly to the members of the parliament defense committee, claiming that the C130J came last in all 7 comparison studies performed by the N-MOD. (The studies are classified)
The claim is completely wrong according to the same N-MOD
(Airbus also claimed 2 weeks ago,that the first A400 could be fully operational with the RNoAF in January 2010)
The media has made the misinformation case the major storyline, bringing in a lot of commentators on spin, corruption, lobbying etc.
Still, in the end, good result for the 335Sqn, the governments till is shut tight nowadays. Congrats!
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Airbus Military seem to be going crying to the media a lot on A400M and CN-295. No disrespect Beags, but A400M isn't flying yet and I suspect a couple of replacements have been pushed back to try and have competition i.e. the RAF C-17 lease but time's run out and the airforces need kit.
They were right about US KC-767 and Druyun, I'll give them that.
They were right about US KC-767 and Druyun, I'll give them that.
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The media has made the misinformation case the major storyline, bringing in a lot of commentators on spin, corruption, lobbying etc.
There is a delay in the A400M programme, widely reported, due to the need to strengthen some internal TP400-D6 engine components as a result of ground testing experience.
Hence the engine will not now fly until Q4 2007.
However, first A400M flight and first delivery are still scheduled for 2009.
With the number of A400M orders already secured for other customers, it would perhaps have been doubtful whether the RNoAF could receive A400Ms in 2009, so they have had to settle for the less capable C130J.
Which will still be a good freight aircraft for the RNoAF, of course - just not as good as the A400M will be, had they been able to wait.
Hence the engine will not now fly until Q4 2007.
However, first A400M flight and first delivery are still scheduled for 2009.
With the number of A400M orders already secured for other customers, it would perhaps have been doubtful whether the RNoAF could receive A400Ms in 2009, so they have had to settle for the less capable C130J.
Which will still be a good freight aircraft for the RNoAF, of course - just not as good as the A400M will be, had they been able to wait.
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Beags,
The good folk of Pruneland have accused you of many things over the years but naivety is new one on me,
"However, first A400M flight and first delivery are still scheduled for 2009."
Even someone as daft as me knows there is a world of difference between scheduled and actuality
I know you work for them and have a vested interest but please credit the rest of us with some intelligence
The good folk of Pruneland have accused you of many things over the years but naivety is new one on me,
"However, first A400M flight and first delivery are still scheduled for 2009."
Even someone as daft as me knows there is a world of difference between scheduled and actuality
I know you work for them and have a vested interest but please credit the rest of us with some intelligence
Well, consult your crystal bollocks then and tell me when the first flight of the A400M will take place!
There is a scheduled date; whether or not that will be ultimately achieved obviously cannot be stated with certainty at this stage, o intelligent one.
And I do NOT work on the A400M programme!
There is a scheduled date; whether or not that will be ultimately achieved obviously cannot be stated with certainty at this stage, o intelligent one.
And I do NOT work on the A400M programme!
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Two posts back you make "qualified" statements ................now you say you don't know anything and I should consult my "crystal bits", a bit of consistency would be good here old chap
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My comments came from open sources.
Hardly rocket science for those who are sufficiently interested to keep up with the programme, I would have thought.
Hardly rocket science for those who are sufficiently interested to keep up with the programme, I would have thought.
