WWII log books and the Kings Rgs....
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WWII log books and the Kings Rgs....
Hello,
This is my first post here, and Im afraid its a couple of questions. I must confess to neither being a member of the forces nor a pilot.
But this seemed a good place to ask this question.
In the pilots log books of the RAF in the second world war, every 50 or 70 pages or so were left blank except for the words :
"The attention of Officers is called to Para. 695. K.R. & A.C.I"
And so my questions are, what does KRR state? What is does ACI mean? And lastly (and depending on what it all means in the first place) Does it apply today?
Many thanks for your help,
Regards.
H
This is my first post here, and Im afraid its a couple of questions. I must confess to neither being a member of the forces nor a pilot.
But this seemed a good place to ask this question.
In the pilots log books of the RAF in the second world war, every 50 or 70 pages or so were left blank except for the words :
"The attention of Officers is called to Para. 695. K.R. & A.C.I"
And so my questions are, what does KRR state? What is does ACI mean? And lastly (and depending on what it all means in the first place) Does it apply today?
Many thanks for your help,
Regards.
H
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I could be very wrong here but I would venture to suggest that not too many pilots were lucky enough to complete 70 pages of their log book in WWII.
Sorry I can't help with the questions you asked.
Sorry I can't help with the questions you asked.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Very much a thread drift but I thought I would try Google:
this site is fascinating and is a compilation of sources
http://www.btinternet.com/~aspals/asplinks.html
this site is fascinating and is a compilation of sources
http://www.btinternet.com/~aspals/asplinks.html
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KR 695 probably comes under Chapter IX - Training and Education. My copy (dated March 1918) finishes at para 675 with Chapter 9 "under revision", and recommences at para 908. The amendments (up to and including 1922 cover para 672 and then skip to para 955)
Not much help but I suspect that it is the basis for the KRs which were extant during WW2.
Not much help but I suspect that it is the basis for the KRs which were extant during WW2.
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Hi all,
Thanks for your help so far, it is much appreciated, but the questions go unanswered sadly.
This is from a substantial logbook, the pilot in question flew from 1935 through the war (inc BoB) and on into the 1950s.
Have asked on the other forum suggested earlier. Thanks to that poster.
Regards
H
Thanks for your help so far, it is much appreciated, but the questions go unanswered sadly.
This is from a substantial logbook, the pilot in question flew from 1935 through the war (inc BoB) and on into the 1950s.
Have asked on the other forum suggested earlier. Thanks to that poster.
Regards
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May I suggest you contact the RAF Museum.
Web site www.rafmuseum.org
Or please PM me and I will give you some contact E mail address's and phone numbers at the museum.
They have a log book section which might have your answer.
They have been very helpful with information for my project on the Mk 9/9a bubble sextants
Cheers
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Web site www.rafmuseum.org
Or please PM me and I will give you some contact E mail address's and phone numbers at the museum.
They have a log book section which might have your answer.
They have been very helpful with information for my project on the Mk 9/9a bubble sextants
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Kings Regs 1944 edition
The Kings Regulations and Air Council Instructions for the Royal Air Force
Chapter XII - REGULATIONS RELATED TO FLYING
PARA 695
"1 Whatever be the nature of his employment, every officer of the general duties branch, up to and including group captain, who is fit for full or limited flying duties (whether for general service or home service only) is required to keep himself in regular flying practice on service aircraft.
2 When employed on non-flying duties, officers will be divided for the purpose of flying practice into two categories (A and B), according to the units at which they are serving. Officers in category A * will be required to carry out not less than 6 hours flying a year, and those in category B (which comprises all units other than those contained in category A) not less than 20 hours flying a year.
3 For the purpose of recording the flying hours of all officers of the general duties branch, "the flying year" will be regarded as begining on 1st June and ending on 31st May, and flying times will be inserted in para. 17 of Form 367 (Annual Confidential Report) accordingly.
4 It is the responsibility of air and other officers commanding that the regulations are complied with by officers under their command. If any officer has not carried out the requisite number of hours' flying, a report will be attached to the Form 367 stating the reasons for the non-compliance with the regulations.
5 See para.506 as to the flying practice for airmen pilots who have ceased to be employed as such. "
This was amended later to only 2 paragraphs (1947?)
"1 Every officer of the general duties branch, up to the rank of group captain, who is qualified as a pilot, is required to keep himself in regular flying practice in air force aircraft, unless it can be shown clearly that the nature of his duties makes it impracticable. If qualified for aircrew categories other than pilot, such officers will take every opportunity of practising their air crew duties in the air.
2 An officer posted from non-flying to active flying duties will be given such refresher or instructional flying as his A.O.C. considers necessary before taking up his new post. See para 506 as to flying practice for airmen air crew who have ceased to be employed as such."
Hope this helps
Chapter XII - REGULATIONS RELATED TO FLYING
PARA 695
"1 Whatever be the nature of his employment, every officer of the general duties branch, up to and including group captain, who is fit for full or limited flying duties (whether for general service or home service only) is required to keep himself in regular flying practice on service aircraft.
2 When employed on non-flying duties, officers will be divided for the purpose of flying practice into two categories (A and B), according to the units at which they are serving. Officers in category A * will be required to carry out not less than 6 hours flying a year, and those in category B (which comprises all units other than those contained in category A) not less than 20 hours flying a year.
3 For the purpose of recording the flying hours of all officers of the general duties branch, "the flying year" will be regarded as begining on 1st June and ending on 31st May, and flying times will be inserted in para. 17 of Form 367 (Annual Confidential Report) accordingly.
4 It is the responsibility of air and other officers commanding that the regulations are complied with by officers under their command. If any officer has not carried out the requisite number of hours' flying, a report will be attached to the Form 367 stating the reasons for the non-compliance with the regulations.
5 See para.506 as to the flying practice for airmen pilots who have ceased to be employed as such. "
This was amended later to only 2 paragraphs (1947?)
"1 Every officer of the general duties branch, up to the rank of group captain, who is qualified as a pilot, is required to keep himself in regular flying practice in air force aircraft, unless it can be shown clearly that the nature of his duties makes it impracticable. If qualified for aircrew categories other than pilot, such officers will take every opportunity of practising their air crew duties in the air.
2 An officer posted from non-flying to active flying duties will be given such refresher or instructional flying as his A.O.C. considers necessary before taking up his new post. See para 506 as to flying practice for airmen air crew who have ceased to be employed as such."
Hope this helps
Last edited by dragon166; 23rd Dec 2006 at 01:28. Reason: incorrect info
