MoD states Tristar pax problem is not a problem
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MoD states Tristar pax problem is not a problem
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Availability of RAF passenger aircraft
A newspaper report claims that the RAF's Tristar passenger jets are overworked, leaving only one to ferry British troops to and from Afghanistan and Iraq. The same report claims that many of the Tristars are either not fitted with the right anti-missile defensive equipment, or are unserviceable.
We maintain our aircraft to the highest standards and priority is always given to those aircraft involved in or supporting operations. There are nine Tristar Aircraft: three carry out Air Transport and six carry out both Air Transport and Air-to-Air Refuelling role. Five of these nine aircraft are fitted with Defensive Aids suitable for carriage of passengers on operations. Of these five, two are required to be available for transport of passengers on operations. Three aircraft are available today, so the bottom line is that the RAF is fulfilling its operational passenger transport commitments.
What about tomorrow then? or next week...
Availability of RAF passenger aircraft
A newspaper report claims that the RAF's Tristar passenger jets are overworked, leaving only one to ferry British troops to and from Afghanistan and Iraq. The same report claims that many of the Tristars are either not fitted with the right anti-missile defensive equipment, or are unserviceable.
We maintain our aircraft to the highest standards and priority is always given to those aircraft involved in or supporting operations. There are nine Tristar Aircraft: three carry out Air Transport and six carry out both Air Transport and Air-to-Air Refuelling role. Five of these nine aircraft are fitted with Defensive Aids suitable for carriage of passengers on operations. Of these five, two are required to be available for transport of passengers on operations. Three aircraft are available today, so the bottom line is that the RAF is fulfilling its operational passenger transport commitments.
What about tomorrow then? or next week...
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Flew in to Basrah Airport on a Tri-star a few years ago after the war.
No defensive equipment fitted in those days, All the RAF could do was turn all the lights out on the Aircraft and fly in hoping for the best.
What a joke it was I had a window seat looking out of the window below us were the flames from the oil fields GREAT big orange flames.
So this great big White Tri-star became a great big Orange target in the sky. All of the aircraft was bright orange.
Guess as luck would have it we landed safe. But had we been hit just think how many lives 300+ would have been lost.
I ask those in power HOW CAN YOU DECIDE TO TAKE RISKS LIKE THIS ?
No wonder my PVR is in and I am getting out of the RAF you can stuff the job, the pay, my life is worth more than that.
days to do getting few.
Blair how do you sleep at night ?
No defensive equipment fitted in those days, All the RAF could do was turn all the lights out on the Aircraft and fly in hoping for the best.
What a joke it was I had a window seat looking out of the window below us were the flames from the oil fields GREAT big orange flames.
So this great big White Tri-star became a great big Orange target in the sky. All of the aircraft was bright orange.
Guess as luck would have it we landed safe. But had we been hit just think how many lives 300+ would have been lost.
I ask those in power HOW CAN YOU DECIDE TO TAKE RISKS LIKE THIS ?
No wonder my PVR is in and I am getting out of the RAF you can stuff the job, the pay, my life is worth more than that.
days to do getting few.Blair how do you sleep at night ?
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Brize-Kabul/Kandahar Tristar route over the past ten days include long delays caused by non-pressurisation of cabin (at take-off), stuck door, fuel leak (x 2), crew hours expired, ground handling at Kandahar.
Only one Tristar available for inaugural Kandahar flight (one down for deep maintainence, other u/s for unspecified problem.
Add in bad weather delays and it is currently taking up to three days for people to get back for one week R and R.
Main problems are niggly. Sensors, hydraulics etc, caused by age and the aircraft forced to fly 17 hours a day.
MoD says it has other tanker Tristars which can carry pax - but that's only half the pax-only L1011s. And the US Navy isn't likely to release them while there are guys on the ground in need of CAS.
REAL credit then to the boys in blue who are busting their balls to meet requirements with the crap they are given by this pathetic MoD, whose PR department puts out viciously-insulting half-truths and lies like this.
I take my hat off to the men and women of 216 et al !!
Only one Tristar available for inaugural Kandahar flight (one down for deep maintainence, other u/s for unspecified problem.
Add in bad weather delays and it is currently taking up to three days for people to get back for one week R and R.
Main problems are niggly. Sensors, hydraulics etc, caused by age and the aircraft forced to fly 17 hours a day.
MoD says it has other tanker Tristars which can carry pax - but that's only half the pax-only L1011s. And the US Navy isn't likely to release them while there are guys on the ground in need of CAS.
REAL credit then to the boys in blue who are busting their balls to meet requirements with the crap they are given by this pathetic MoD, whose PR department puts out viciously-insulting half-truths and lies like this.
I take my hat off to the men and women of 216 et al !!
That's not another quote from that yes-man prick Trevor, is it?
How can the reality of the cr@p state of the RAF's AT/AAR fleet be defended by such d*ckheads at the Ministry of Truth?
How can the reality of the cr@p state of the RAF's AT/AAR fleet be defended by such d*ckheads at the Ministry of Truth?
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The MOD Spokesman is correct, it's not a problem....for them. It's only a problem for those of us that fly them, and those of you that have to travel on them.
Blogger: "No wonder my PVR is in and I am getting out of the RAF you can stuff the job, the pay, my life is worth more than that. days to do getting few."
Blogger, I'll see you in civvy street.
Take care all, have a safe and timely Chrimbo.
Blogger: "No wonder my PVR is in and I am getting out of the RAF you can stuff the job, the pay, my life is worth more than that. days to do getting few."
Blogger, I'll see you in civvy street.
Take care all, have a safe and timely Chrimbo.
