Aptitude Acronyms
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Aptitude Acronyms
Dear all,
As you are all undoubtedly aware, the military has an obsession with acronyms and although I can make sense of most, there are a few which most definately pass me by!
I was recently having a discussion with Professor Plum about our OASC Aptitude Test scores for each branch and there was an acronym which neither of us understood.
As I understand them: (there may be errors)
PLT = Pilot aptitude
WSO = Weapons System Operator aptitude
ATC = Air Traffic Controller aptitude
FC = Fighter Controller aptitude
INT = Intelligence aptitude
Both Professor Plum and myself scored between 120-145 on these aptitudes, however there was also a single-digit score next to the acronym 'CRB' and I have no idea what this represents. My CRB score was 5 and Professor Plum's was 8.
Does anybody know what CRB represents?
Also, being in the precarious position of having been 'Weakly Recommended' for IOT and awaiting a decision at the board's further discussion, secondly to pilot (my sole branch choice) which aptitudes do you think are best to have scored highly in to bolster my chances for selection?
All the best,
Bridge23
As you are all undoubtedly aware, the military has an obsession with acronyms and although I can make sense of most, there are a few which most definately pass me by!
I was recently having a discussion with Professor Plum about our OASC Aptitude Test scores for each branch and there was an acronym which neither of us understood.
As I understand them: (there may be errors)
PLT = Pilot aptitude
WSO = Weapons System Operator aptitude
ATC = Air Traffic Controller aptitude
FC = Fighter Controller aptitude
INT = Intelligence aptitude
Both Professor Plum and myself scored between 120-145 on these aptitudes, however there was also a single-digit score next to the acronym 'CRB' and I have no idea what this represents. My CRB score was 5 and Professor Plum's was 8.
Does anybody know what CRB represents?
Also, being in the precarious position of having been 'Weakly Recommended' for IOT and awaiting a decision at the board's further discussion, secondly to pilot (my sole branch choice) which aptitudes do you think are best to have scored highly in to bolster my chances for selection?
All the best,
Bridge23
Acronyms
Bridges
CRB = Criminal records board? Is there something you want to talk to us about perhaps? Obviously it won't go any further than here. You do trust me - don't you?
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CRB = Criminal records board? Is there something you want to talk to us about perhaps? Obviously it won't go any further than here. You do trust me - don't you?
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Just so you can positively shine on your subesequent interviews, be prepared to fascinate and amaze the panel by sharing that what you have in fact listed are "initialisms" and not "acronyms". An acronym is a word formed from the initial letters, such as NATO, but when the initial letters themselves are used, it is an initialism eg. ATC.
Aptitude Acronyms
CRB =Critical Reasoning Battery. It is the score you achieve in a specific battery (ie set) of tests designed to measure how well your brain works!!
The other abbreviations you mention are simply short titles for the various officer branches.
The other abbreviations you mention are simply short titles for the various officer branches.
It' not a score to be used in isolation. From what I remember the max score is 9, (I think mine was 7 or 8) however a friend of mine from EFT 'only' got a about a 4 but had pilot aptitude scores about 10 points higher than mine. Neither of us got chopped so I guess a 'good' score is relative.
No idea I am afraid. Can't even remember my own score now. Someone at work suggested recently that 130 was the bare minimum that would get you in these days but I have no idea what they were basing that on or how accurate that is.
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Bridge,
I'd try not to get too wrapped round the axle by scores/numbers (yes, I know, I was the same). There is a lot more to it than that - and besides, you can't change anything now, it's done (for now)!
There is a lot of stuff spouted about the aptitudes, many people have titbits of info and it's easy to bite off on the 'little snippets' and assume they are of huge importance. Loads of people have much to say about it - which is good in some ways, but there is a LOT of misinformation/misunderstanding about.
I wish you the best of luck - and if you don't get it first time, just keep going and going and they might just get sick of you and let you in... (I managed to fail several times!).
Ray :-)
I'd try not to get too wrapped round the axle by scores/numbers (yes, I know, I was the same). There is a lot more to it than that - and besides, you can't change anything now, it's done (for now)!
There is a lot of stuff spouted about the aptitudes, many people have titbits of info and it's easy to bite off on the 'little snippets' and assume they are of huge importance. Loads of people have much to say about it - which is good in some ways, but there is a LOT of misinformation/misunderstanding about.
I wish you the best of luck - and if you don't get it first time, just keep going and going and they might just get sick of you and let you in... (I managed to fail several times!).
Ray :-)
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'Passmark' is 112 - but as VP says higher scores are more competitive - to my understanding though, as long as you pass you are in with as much chance as anyone else providing you pass the other elements of OASC.
However, if by the end of the process Mr A and Mr B have produced equally weighted write ups, and are deserving of passing the selection process, then aptitude can be used as the tiebreaking score to determine which of the two are selected.
However, if by the end of the process Mr A and Mr B have produced equally weighted write ups, and are deserving of passing the selection process, then aptitude can be used as the tiebreaking score to determine which of the two are selected.
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Top CRB scale is 10. No one gets 10. 9 is unusual. 8 is normal tops and so on down.
A CRB score is not related to aptitude and a low CRB does not automatically mark someone down.
A CRB score is not related to aptitude and a low CRB does not automatically mark someone down.
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So out of all the tests we sat during that 6-7 hour aptitude test period, which specific tests were designed to tests the CRB ability?
Maybe the one where we had to manage 3 inputs at once?
Maybe the one where we had to manage 3 inputs at once?
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Lukesdad, patience my son. Grading 0-10 is one thing. Telling you how far below the top 112 is is something else again.
Bridge, you really need to ask that question? It is critical reasoning, you are given a number of tasks, do you have the ability to work out and commnicate an effective solution?
For example:
Mission - to get the whole team from A to B by 1500
Plan - one team member remains at A, rest of team reach B at 1445.
Brief - brief as plan.
Conclusion - CRB score -----
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Mission - as above
Plan - half team sets out on foot to point C. Remeained of team sets out by car to point B. One person returns to point C and collects rest of team. Whole team reaches Point B at 1459.
Naturally one test does not give you a CRB score nor does it stop you getting 8/10 as sometimes you will never see the wood for the trees. It is how you tackle all the mental and physical tasks set and could include helpful advice on the floor exercises if the team leader asks for opinions.
Bridge, you really need to ask that question? It is critical reasoning, you are given a number of tasks, do you have the ability to work out and commnicate an effective solution?
For example:
Mission - to get the whole team from A to B by 1500
Plan - one team member remains at A, rest of team reach B at 1445.
Brief - brief as plan.
Conclusion - CRB score -----
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Mission - as above
Plan - half team sets out on foot to point C. Remeained of team sets out by car to point B. One person returns to point C and collects rest of team. Whole team reaches Point B at 1459.
Naturally one test does not give you a CRB score nor does it stop you getting 8/10 as sometimes you will never see the wood for the trees. It is how you tackle all the mental and physical tasks set and could include helpful advice on the floor exercises if the team leader asks for opinions.
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Lukesdad, it is more a question of sensibility than sensitivity.
If I told you that tops was 200 (it isn't) you might assume that anything close to 112 was as good as a fail. (Under confidence).
If I told you it was 140 (again it isn't) then you might assume you were better than you actually were. (Over confidence).
If you know you are well above the pass criteria then you can relax in blissful ignorance because, as others have said, a high PA score is not the be all and end all.
If I told you that tops was 200 (it isn't) you might assume that anything close to 112 was as good as a fail. (Under confidence).
If I told you it was 140 (again it isn't) then you might assume you were better than you actually were. (Over confidence).
If you know you are well above the pass criteria then you can relax in blissful ignorance because, as others have said, a high PA score is not the be all and end all.
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Navigator, yes I quite understand the thinking behind the non disclosure. I am just a little unsure as to why it is aceptable for other parts of the testing procedure to have their scoring criterea disclosed and not the PA.
Surely the same under/over confidence issues are as relevant to CRB as they are to PA?
With that said I would not wish you to think that I am pushing you for any further information on the subject. In my (non services) life,I have learned blissful ignorance is not a bad place to be!
Surely the same under/over confidence issues are as relevant to CRB as they are to PA?
With that said I would not wish you to think that I am pushing you for any further information on the subject. In my (non services) life,I have learned blissful ignorance is not a bad place to be!
I've heard that the top score is 180. Although thats from a friend of a friend of a friend sort of source, so it may be wildly inaccurate!!
I know someone who got in the 160's.
Surely it doesn't matter what the max score is....because you'll never get that score anyway!
What is important is the pass mark, and the score you achieve. Just make sure that: your score>pass mark!
I know someone who got in the 160's.
Surely it doesn't matter what the max score is....because you'll never get that score anyway!
What is important is the pass mark, and the score you achieve. Just make sure that: your score>pass mark!
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