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Old 2nd Dec 2006, 12:07
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I don't know what it had to do with anything in particular but we were shown an F14 carrier flypast with the thing in high-speed mode during the Aerodynamics phase of our ATPL ground school. As it came abeam the boat the pilot racked it over into a 90° bank, when it disintegrated. Cue big ball of flame and little bits of airplane falling out of same. We were told it was a celebration of the end of the pilot's cruise. Well, yes!

I always get that sinking feeling when I hear, 'Hey! Watch this!'

Is this the Video ?? ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDd6uXiNFgs

If it is the information we had was that it was due to a failure in the afterburner lining which affected the F14B and D Models with the new GE engines, this caused the rear end of the jet to disentigrate with obvious results.

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http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/VA...0/03300269.htm
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It almost looked like controlled flight into the ground. Having read the case study and now seen the video I wonder whether this was possibly even deliberate?
I have seen a remarkably similar video of an RC B52 doing exactly the same thing.
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Bob Hammond just after the air show planning briefing "I can't believe that the Air Force is so stupid that they are going to let me fly my last mission of my career at an air show."
Major Terry Makon, nurse manager in emergency services, to coworker at the air show briefing "I just hope he crashes on Friday, not Sunday, so I will not have so many bodies to pick up." "The Rouge Pilot", Tony Kern

chuks - if its the video I think it is it was the result of an engine disintegrating.
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"The Rouge Pilot", Tony Kern

Freudian slip with "The Rouge Pilot" in reference to a Cold War, 'SAC-trained killer?'
 
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Freudian slip???? Nah, just the finger quicker than the brain Brick. And lack of proof reading.
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Old 2nd Dec 2006, 14:44
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Hello all, I must say that I'm kind of dissapointed in the fact that nobody picked up on the fact that there's no dust, nor trees moving from the jet exhaust.

This is CLEARLY computer generated graphics. (CGI) albiet, a good one, it's fake as fake can be.

There's a bunch of animation students/enthusiasts who post videos' such as this and various other "shock" videos and get thier kicks from the reactions on various websites by "fooling" so called experts...for example;

Bus dodging; LINK

getting hit by a car *Graphic, but fake* LINK

US attacks the UK; LINK

etc. etc...Search "fake CGI videos" on google and you'll find hundreds of such examples. You're being laughed at on several websites for being so guilible.

Think what you like, contact any authorities you'd like, but both the videos of low level passings (the three "mirages" or French military jets and the KC-135) are fake.

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Old 2nd Dec 2006, 21:52
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Yes - I read the case study also - looked like a classic clean stall on the video - which smacks of shocking flying and poor airmanship - at that height, no amount of rudder, elevator, aileron or power was going to save them - the only authority they had was the flying pilot, and he pigged it
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Old 3rd Dec 2006, 00:23
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In terms of pushing the envelope, the KC-135 maneuver in the video was routine, while the B-52 crash was the result of flying at and, unfortunately, beyond the margin.

The tanker was doing a "landing attitude demo" variation, a maneuver taught at instructor pilot school, albeit with gear down, along with 90 degree bank refueling with a B-52 on the boom, and used to show new pilots the visual landing cues. It was no big deal, although visually impressive.

Another cool variation of the landing attitude demo is the "elephant walk", in which reducing and adding thrust alternately on outboard engines causes the left and right main gear trucks to touch and rise, seeming to walk down the runway. With a little practise you can get five or six steps on a 10,000' strip. This maneuver, too, is routine.
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CGI

STOL, I know for a fact that the KC drivers have been identified by the FAF and that they are getting their reammed (without using computer graphics).

As far as I know and following a C235 crash in South of France a few years ago, they (the FAF) is going to adopt a policy of examining every black box to try to prevent these "low flying jollies".
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