Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Brize Runway

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 30th Oct 2006, 14:38
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Close to ABIW
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Brize Runway

Last weekend from two different sources I was told that Brize Norton runway may have to close again for up to two years? One source said that the centreline lights were 2 metres off-centre and the other said it was because the concrete had not cured from the previous refurb.... True or not?
Blakey875 is offline  
Old 30th Oct 2006, 16:26
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Bloody hope not.
goatmanni is offline  
Old 30th Oct 2006, 16:49
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Oxfordshire
Age: 37
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
They initialy had a problem with the centre line lights being off-centre while doing the resurfacing, this is why the runway works ran over by a few months.
Heavy Metal!! is offline  
Old 30th Oct 2006, 17:01
  #4 (permalink)  
Red On, Green On
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Between the woods and the water
Age: 24
Posts: 6,487
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I understood that the contractor's workforce, who were largely from the Emerald Isle, were told they'd put the concrete down upside-down.

Some of them then tried inverting it, but were let in on the joke eventually.
airborne_artist is offline  
Old 30th Oct 2006, 18:24
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 458
Received 22 Likes on 12 Posts
No worries chee-apps, we'll just bolthole the AT/AAR force to....er.......er........

Bugger. We've closed all the alternates.

Remember this post in 2012...
Jobza Guddun is offline  
Old 30th Oct 2006, 21:27
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Closer than you think...
Age: 65
Posts: 390
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Blakey875
Last weekend from two different sources I was told that Brize Norton runway may have to close again for up to two years? One source said that the centreline lights were 2 metres off-centre and the other said it was because the concrete had not cured from the previous refurb.... True or not?
Saying nothing .......
Always a Sapper is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2006, 06:07
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: england
Posts: 385
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It needs to be re-laid anyway , I flew in there the other day, why the hell have they made it so wide but so short?
Kengineer-130 is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2006, 06:26
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Wholigan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Sunny (or Rainy) Somerset, England
Posts: 2,026
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Last weekend from two different sources I was told that Brize Norton runway may have to close again for up to two years?
Is this the single runway that makes Brize an eminently more suitable (only one in the country) transport base than any bases with more than one runway then???????
Wholigan is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2006, 07:54
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 403
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Oh well, it's Macrihanish then I suppose!
GlosMikeP is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2006, 08:59
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Oxfordshire
Age: 54
Posts: 470
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
How about we all relocate to Akt, and run the transport ops from there? Weather's nice this time of year, and with the Brize movers there to supplement the Akt ones, things should go brilliantly!

Civair for anyone going further West than Cyprus should also cheer up the troops going home!
glum is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2006, 09:22
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 403
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You might have a pont there! Especially if the civair stops over at Gib and Faro on the way back.......
GlosMikeP is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2006, 10:50
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: The Mysterious East
Posts: 384
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Get 'em to Wattisham. Nice long-ish runway there!

Close to where lots of squadies are based too

Might liven the place up a bit


LXGB
LXGB is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2006, 12:28
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Temporarily missing from the Joe Louis Arena
Posts: 2,131
Received 27 Likes on 16 Posts
Originally Posted by LXGB
Get 'em to Wattisham. Nice long-ish runway there!
Close to where lots of squadies are based too
Might liven the place up a bit
LXGB
Ah but you seem to have missed the joy that is the Army/RAF movements system and what they would insist on.

A/C based at RAF Wattisham but check-ins still done through Brize Norton, you know it makes sense (to a muppet).
The Helpful Stacker is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2006, 12:38
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Devon, England
Posts: 816
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Another enjoyable time down the road at a certain refurbished station like they did before then
Razor61 is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2006, 12:38
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: In the dark
Posts: 391
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Blakey875
Last weekend from two different sources I was told that Brize Norton runway may have to close again for up to two years? One source said that the centreline lights were 2 metres off-centre and the other said it was because the concrete had not cured from the previous refurb.... True or not?
I can just see the meeting.

Contractor: No one told us the centreline lights need to be in the centre of the runway.
MOD: That should be obvious.
Contractor: If it's not in the contract, it does not get done. In fact you were lucky we fitted them at all.
MOD: Ok, have another £10 million, I will get that seat on the board when I retire, won't I?
Contractor: Yes, Minister.
FormerFlake is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2006, 12:39
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by The Helpful Stacker
Ah but you seem to have missed the joy that is the Army/RAF movements system and what they would insist on.
A/C based at RAF Wattisham but check-ins still done through Brize Norton, you know it makes sense (to a muppet).
Unless it was an ops/ex flight; then they'd take them to South Cerney the day before, check them in there, then put them overnight in the worlds biggest bedroom, before busing them to Brize for erm "final processing" and then busing them to Wattisham.
Army Mover is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2006, 12:47
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Slightly off-thread, but...

I remember being at Brize for an RCDS (Royal College of Defence Studies) presentation many years ago, where an example of all RAF aircraft was expected to attend (and they had to be immaculate!). I was one of the earlier arrivals, and, standing by my ac, watched the Buccaneer approach and land in the slightly darkening grey day.

A nice smooth landing, quite nose high and bang on the centreline, and then the pilot dropped the hook. The sound effects went something like 'scrape, scrape, ping... scrape, scrape, ping...'

Some of the lights went about 30ft in the air, and the array of sparks was very impressive.

They had runway edge lighting at Laarbruch.
FL575 is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2006, 13:07
  #18 (permalink)  
Red On, Green On
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Between the woods and the water
Age: 24
Posts: 6,487
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
They had runway edge lighting at Laarbruch.
And by the time the Bucc mate had finished, all the Brize lighting was in the 'edge.

Coat, hat etc.
airborne_artist is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2006, 13:51
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Waleshire
Age: 60
Posts: 209
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by FL575
Slightly off-thread, but...

I remember being at Brize for an RCDS (Royal College of Defence Studies) presentation many years ago, where an example of all RAF aircraft was expected to attend (and they had to be immaculate!). I was one of the earlier arrivals, and, standing by my ac, watched the Buccaneer approach and land in the slightly darkening grey day.

A nice smooth landing, quite nose high and bang on the centreline, and then the pilot dropped the hook. The sound effects went something like 'scrape, scrape, ping... scrape, scrape, ping...'

Some of the lights went about 30ft in the air, and the array of sparks was very impressive.

They had runway edge lighting at Laarbruch.
Presicely the same thing happened at Warton about a year ago. A Typhoon on finals elected to make a RHAG engagement as his nosewheel steering was suffering problems.

Typoon touched down bang on centreline 46 metres before the threshold. Hook damaged. Centreline lights destroyed. And because of the shattered hook, the (brand new) cable was written off too.

See the spring 06 (I think) Flight Safety Flyer for the full story.
QFIhawkman is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2006, 17:28
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: An airfield cunningly close the Thames
Age: 46
Posts: 256
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just another bloody example of the MOD's finest wasting millions of £s by poor contracts and by accepting the offer from the lowest bidder. Whenm will they learn. Hiring professional contract writers and putting out a proper tender to a proper company even though it seems to cost a bit more WILL save you money, because inevitably the contract isn't for what you want, is (partly) completed by shoddy firms and costs far more in repairs and afterthoughts than if they had done it properly in the first place.

Dear Defence Minister/CAS,
The Defence Budget is fine, just stop wasting our money on poor work and contracts. Write proper contracts and pay for quality, especially for the equipment and hardware that is supposed to last you many years.
Yours,
Miffed

6foottanker is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.