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Old 17th Oct 2006, 11:08
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So what has happened to the Queen Alexandra´s Royal Army Nursing Service?

There are a super Matron at the PM hospital in Cyprus during the mid 70s. Honorary member of 280SU mess, she used have beach barbeques with her nurses and invite us all along.
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Old 17th Oct 2006, 11:10
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"Copy of Angling Times in the post!!"

Better make that an Oxford English, as well, since the spelling of the word 'eluded' has "alluded" him.....
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Old 17th Oct 2006, 11:29
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The real shame of it from the loss of real DMS, aside from the obvious loss to the Services, is the very high standards of care the military hospitals had. They set the standard that the NHS should have met, but didn't and from which there has been further decline. The old mil hospitals also provided a valuable boost to the capacity of local civilian services.

My wife, a highly experienced specialist A&E nurse in the NHS at the time, was astonished when she visited Wroughton, where I had major surgery as I was leaving the RAF. "This is what a hospital is meant to look like and how it's meant to work". It was clean, orderly and structured.

The only way now to get the standard of care that was available is to pay private.
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Stonehouse - just had my Class 1 medical renewed there yesterday. Amazing island of calm and decent buildings wedged into the seedier end of Plymouth. Oh, and the doc who does the JAA-Laying-On-Of-Hands there was the SMO at Sek Kong in 1981/2...

Flew over Nocton Hall last month with the Air Ambo - sad to see it these days. If my Dad hadn't been there having his Murgatroyds reamed he'd have never met my Mum (Ward Sister). Wonder what he used for a chat-up line? As for my Farmers, they went up the chimney at Wroughton after my 3rd op. Flew past the site with the Pol/Air Amb last week - sadly just as dionysius described it.
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Old 17th Oct 2006, 16:26
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Devil PTSS

Does anyone know how we deal with Post traumatic stress syndrome, apart from brufen and tubegrip!!
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Old 17th Oct 2006, 16:50
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Get pissed?

They used to be able to sort that out at Wroughton as well - a few folk I knew (no, not me!) went in there and came out just fine....
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Old 17th Oct 2006, 16:54
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Treatment for PTSD usually begins with a detailed evaluation,which can be very personal and the development of a treatment plan that meets the unique needs of the survivor or survivors. Usually, PTSD-specific treatment is begun only after the survivor,or survivors has been safely removed from a crisis situation i.e they have been flown home . If a survivor is still being exposed to trauma (such as ongoing roadside bombs, mortar attacks and being shouted at) , is severely depressed or suicidal : suspect is experiencing extreme panic or disorganized thinking , or is in need of alcohol detoxification, it is important to address these crisis problems as a part of the first phase of treatment .
The treatment can include learning skills for coping with anxiety (such as breathing retraining or biofeedback. Isnt that fish food?) and negative thoughts ("cognitive restructuring"),managing anger ,preparing for stress reactions ,handling future trauma symptoms ,addressing urges to kill prisoners in your care, when trauma symptoms occur ("relapse prevention"), and communicating and relating effectively with people (Taleban or Iraqi insurgants) .
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I think after reading this, I'll take BEagle's advice......as long as I don't turn into one of the chaps we had on the Sqn years ago.

He was known as the Amoco Lager 'A legend in his lunch time', who went for re-training but came back as strong as ever, converted to vodka.
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Old 17th Oct 2006, 17:10
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Regret to inform this forum that I helped to demolish the hospital at RAF Cosford.......in my defence I was told there were others and it was in abit of a state
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Old 17th Oct 2006, 17:34
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Does anyone know how we deal with Post traumatic stress syndrome, apart from brufen and tubegrip!!
Most of the work has been contacted out to the Priory Group (although a small amount used to be under Nuffield Hospitals) and I am pleased to report their facilities at Woking are of a very high standard although their knowledge of military working practices and the environments we can find ourselves in can be a little lacking, which is why access to a CPN (from DCMH at Brize Norton in my case) is also made available.

Speaking to others who have been through the system some (especially the Army) report that they feel a little isolated from the military when in Priory Group hospitals and 'abandoned'.
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Old 17th Oct 2006, 18:22
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Originally Posted by The Helpful Stacker

Speaking to others who have been through the system some (especially the Army) report that they feel a little isolated from the military when in Priory Group hospitals and 'abandoned'.
That's something else lost on politicians: the 'band of brothers' expectation to serve with and be cared for by people in uniform, and I don't mean just a white coat. For the shame of it, I hadn't thought of that aspect until reminded here either.
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Old 17th Oct 2006, 18:33
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Classic quote from an Army Health Care Assistant at MDHU Peterborough, not long after it had opened in the geriatric ward, which was in the process of being moved, but still had a few of the old folks in....


"I didn't join up to look after geriatrics, I joined up to look after fit healthy young men"

Still, she was just what our boys need...........
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Old 17th Oct 2006, 18:35
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Regret to inform this forum that I helped to demolish the hospital at RAF Cosford.......in my defence I was told there were others and it was in abit of a state
Ah, the pleasure of two weeks jankers, mopping the hospital floors and chatting with the nurses, only beaten by mopping out the SNCOs mess bar and having a free pint given to me by the barman.

...The foolishness of youth, right things, wrong order.
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Old 17th Oct 2006, 18:55
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"... fit healthy young men"
Just the right job to go into, health care. If the fit young men were healthy they wouldn't need medics.
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Old 17th Oct 2006, 19:14
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What - such as mopping out the nurses?
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Old 17th Oct 2006, 19:58
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USAF Psychiatric Facility Near Wroughton

What was the name (RAF...) of the USAF Psychiatric Hospital down the road from Wroughton (at the top of the hill above Wroughton Village)? A couple of barrack blocks remain as socila housing however the business side is now behind some scary fences and a small sign 'NUDELTA Corporation'. When did it close/any stories about it?

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Old 17th Oct 2006, 20:33
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I remember being treated/visiting a load of top-notch specialists (all senior RAF men or recently retired) at the RAF Central Medical Establishment somewhere in the West End in the late 1980s. Is it still there?

Amusingly (or confusingly) it was situated next door to the local STD clinic!
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Old 17th Oct 2006, 20:51
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LOTA,

CME, otherwise known as the Retired RAF Consultants' Luncheon Club, closed some years ago. The RAF Medical Boards are now domiciled at Henlow, within RAF CAM.

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Old 17th Oct 2006, 20:58
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I owe a great debt to the midwifes at TPMH for the birth of my 2 children, I/my wife would not have received the same level of care in an NHS hospital.
However subsequently I had to seek care under the NHS as a serving airman and I can't knock the service I received, I must say I had the best care available.

The NHS are target focused now, who's fault is that?

How long before we become target focused?

God forbid that day!!
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