Colonel Tim Collins - Refreshing
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Colonel Tim Collins - Refreshing
R.I.P the brave gents from 120 Sqn.
I have just listened to the comments made by Colonel Tim Collins on the beeb and have got to say I agree with the guy whole-heartedly. If only Bliar had similar characteristics.
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PS - I have been overwhelmed at how ISK have come together yet again, let's continue the support for the families.
I have just listened to the comments made by Colonel Tim Collins on the beeb and have got to say I agree with the guy whole-heartedly. If only Bliar had similar characteristics.
JB
PS - I have been overwhelmed at how ISK have come together yet again, let's continue the support for the families.
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Do you honestly think TB will listen though? I am sure that Des Browne will come up with some lame excuse that the Armed Forces have all the resources they need for the AFG mission and that all the Armed Forces are doing a good job blah blah blah............................ Tone is on his way out. Gordy wont give anymore money so its stalemate. Its going to fun when the bullets run out. I read that could be as soon as the end of the year?
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Not looking for an argument, just merely stating my support for such a strong leader as Tim Collins. They are very few and far between these days.
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Not looking for an argument, just merely stating my support for such a strong leader as Tim Collins. They are very few and far between these days.
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I aint arguing as you can see. I agree with you and I saw the report on the Beeb news. Lets hope Tony is severly damaged by this politically. I dont think so though.
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I take it you know that Tim Collins has left the Queen's employ? Obviously had no place in HM Forces with such aforementioned strong leadership...Apparently, his more senior peers were rather jealous at his media popularity.
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In the interview I saw he hit the nail right on the head, old aircraft in service (not just nimrod) corners cut due to op tempo no spares lack of people etc etc. Des Broon was on later saying nonesense why they were recently upgraded to MR2 spec and see how clever I am I just ordered the nimrod replacements!! Didn't mention it was originally called nimrod 2000!!! Funny old thing.
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Is this the self-same Tim Collins who was not very long ago discussing getting rid of the RAF as a 'money saving' measure?
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While I accept the right of anyone to speak up for their beliefs etc Tim Collins was one of a few 'experts' pouring fuel on the media speculation fire in the hours immediately following the Afghanistan accident. At that time, as we all know, loved ones, families, friends and colleagues were going through a very emotional time. Thanks to Tim Collins, and an ex RAF S/L, that preceding group of people expanded from Chinook to Herc to Nimrod and other types. The 'media' does what it does to sell, sell, sell!! What excuse do these ex military types have for fuelling harmful speculation??? I suspect none. IDIOTS ONE AND ALL WHO SHOULD KNOW BETTER.
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Maybe TB and the government will bring out a "Nimrod Vista" or maybe even a "Nimrod Longhorn" and try and follow the Microsoft way of doing things, sounds like they have already had a "Nimrod 2000" which had its name changed due to technical difficulties?
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Tim Collins was quite right in what he said about a/c overstretch, it's becoming ridiculous.
Feel free to flame me for saying this however, I am of the mind that losses like the Nimrod will happen again and continue to happen whilst operating at the current ops tempo.
The new CDS is straight onto the party line of, 'We can cope - just'. Typical, lets hope our Chiefs gain enough of a backbone to do something about this before we lose more good people.
Feel free to flame me for saying this however, I am of the mind that losses like the Nimrod will happen again and continue to happen whilst operating at the current ops tempo.
The new CDS is straight onto the party line of, 'We can cope - just'. Typical, lets hope our Chiefs gain enough of a backbone to do something about this before we lose more good people.
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Re transcripts and 'overstretch'
Re transcripts...I think the item involving Tim Collins and Tom Rounds was shown on Sky about 1-2 hours after the announcement of the accident.
As for those guys commenting on the 'overstretch'...yes I agree with you however there is a 'BUT'. Please, lets not over do the 'servicing' 'tired' etc argument unless qualifying your statement from 'personal experience'. There are a lot of 'professional' guys out there doing a tough job and they are working their bal*s off keeping a/c operational in difficult circumstances. Hit the 'politicos' and 'chiefs' who keep saying 'cando cando cando' like a bunch of bl**dy yes men but support the guys on the ground.
As for those guys commenting on the 'overstretch'...yes I agree with you however there is a 'BUT'. Please, lets not over do the 'servicing' 'tired' etc argument unless qualifying your statement from 'personal experience'. There are a lot of 'professional' guys out there doing a tough job and they are working their bal*s off keeping a/c operational in difficult circumstances. Hit the 'politicos' and 'chiefs' who keep saying 'cando cando cando' like a bunch of bl**dy yes men but support the guys on the ground.
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Your post proves the point that we are overstretching. The groundcrews are indeed working at maximum capacity, something which is only sustainable short term.
Forgive me for sounding like a royal pain in the arse however, I would just like to see some proper funding coming our way without the need for internal cuts.
Forgive me for sounding like a royal pain in the arse however, I would just like to see some proper funding coming our way without the need for internal cuts.
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Your post proves the point that we are overstretching. The groundcrews are indeed working at maximum capacity, something which is only sustainable short term.
Forgive me for sounding like a royal pain in the arse however, I would just like to see some proper funding coming our way without the need for internal cuts.
Forgive me for sounding like a royal pain in the arse however, I would just like to see some proper funding coming our way without the need for internal cuts.
See news item from the DT. Worrying insight into how exposed our forces are. I know this topic has been covered many times, and the tragedy that recently hapenned has brought it once more to the fore, but it just seems that things are reaching breaking point. Will there ever be a time when someone with similiar leadership credentials of Mr Collins says "enough is enough"? I doubt it. We will continue to struggle, because we are professional, and that's how we have been trained.
But where do we draw the line? Is there ever a time when flight safety is being compromised to achieve the mission, with dimininshing assets? A topic for another time perhaps.
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I had a lot of time for yer man Collins; until he began pontificating on air warfare and its means of conduct. Joint Ops or not, we are still producing single Service experts.
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Looks as if the Chiefs are starting to get either a little concerned or at least refusing to tow the party line. Check this out. We need this a little more rather than yes men d*ckheads that did little more than sit in a concrete bunker for their operational careers. Looks as if the new CGS is more in tune with representing his guys rather than pander to this disgusting government.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5311544.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5311544.stm
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Tim Collins - working for a PMC?
Lt Col (rtd) Tim Collins seems very very keen to use private companies to provide air power in Afghanistan (yesterday's Sunday Times refers). Although his general observations are fine, best he keeps his nose out of the provision of air power.
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Sortie rates used to be specified as intensive or sustained - so many sorties per day for X days was intensive and then it would reduce to a regular tempo.
Crew ratio was set, at a number of crews per aircraft so crew-sortie rate would be slightly lower than aircraft-sortie rate.
If these rates still exist then it should be possible to show that the intensive or sustained rates are exceeded either in quantity or time. Alternatively it may be possible to show that the rate is wrong given the number of sorties missed, serviceablity degradion or medcial fatigue of crews and ground crew.
Is the operational tempo within the planned sortie rates?
Note I have not quantified any of these rates.
Crew ratio was set, at a number of crews per aircraft so crew-sortie rate would be slightly lower than aircraft-sortie rate.
If these rates still exist then it should be possible to show that the intensive or sustained rates are exceeded either in quantity or time. Alternatively it may be possible to show that the rate is wrong given the number of sorties missed, serviceablity degradion or medcial fatigue of crews and ground crew.
Is the operational tempo within the planned sortie rates?
Note I have not quantified any of these rates.