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RAF jet is damaged in bird strike
An RAF jet was forced to make an emergency landing after its canopy was damaged in a bird strike.
The two-man Hawk T1A fighter jet landed safely at Durham Tees Valley Airport, after the incident above Barnard Castle, County Durham, on Tuesday.
The aircraft was on a routine training flight from its base at RAF Leeming in North Yorkshire.
Both crewmen were unhurt. Police helped to recover fragments of the canopy from fields in the Barnard Castle area.
An RAF spokeswoman said the jet's canopy suffered "considerable damage", but that the rest of the aircraft was undamaged.
A spokesman for Durham Police urged members of the public to report any remaining fragments, but not to touch them as they may been needed for a subsequent investigation into the incident.
He said some fragments of the canopy, which resemble a car windscreen, and measured up to 1ft in diameter, had been recovered so far.
(bbc.co.uk/news)
I saw on Teletext last night that some of the fragments came down in the streets of B.Castle...
An RAF jet was forced to make an emergency landing after its canopy was damaged in a bird strike.
The two-man Hawk T1A fighter jet landed safely at Durham Tees Valley Airport, after the incident above Barnard Castle, County Durham, on Tuesday.
The aircraft was on a routine training flight from its base at RAF Leeming in North Yorkshire.
Both crewmen were unhurt. Police helped to recover fragments of the canopy from fields in the Barnard Castle area.
An RAF spokeswoman said the jet's canopy suffered "considerable damage", but that the rest of the aircraft was undamaged.
A spokesman for Durham Police urged members of the public to report any remaining fragments, but not to touch them as they may been needed for a subsequent investigation into the incident.
He said some fragments of the canopy, which resemble a car windscreen, and measured up to 1ft in diameter, had been recovered so far.
(bbc.co.uk/news)
I saw on Teletext last night that some of the fragments came down in the streets of B.Castle...
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Originally Posted by BluntM8
Fair one, which raises the question: What would you have done?
Personally, I would have gone for the nearest available, civvy in this case. My thinking is that if you've had a birdstrike you don't really know what's broken, what's about to go and what is okay from inside the cockpit, so land it as soon as possible (as opposed to as soon as practicable, FRC geeks!). I have visions of trying to push the extra 10 miles, only to have a pannel come off at 5 miles and leap down an intake.
Of course, if the nav in the back bangs you out, it's all a bit accademic!
Blunty
Personally, I would have gone for the nearest available, civvy in this case. My thinking is that if you've had a birdstrike you don't really know what's broken, what's about to go and what is okay from inside the cockpit, so land it as soon as possible (as opposed to as soon as practicable, FRC geeks!). I have visions of trying to push the extra 10 miles, only to have a pannel come off at 5 miles and leap down an intake.
Of course, if the nav in the back bangs you out, it's all a bit accademic!
Blunty
Banged out over the sea.......Thus getting my MB Tie...what a great story in the pub....
Well i was flying along at about!!!!!!..........
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Voice of Reason Speaking
I appreciate the desire to discuss circumstance with regard to air accidents or incidents here on PPRuNe and I am grateful to those who have done so eloquently in the case of this Hawk incident and once some of the facts have come to light. However, I wish to sympathise with higthepig in that, whilst his retort was unnecessary, it did highlight the frustration that many of us feel with regard to the sensationalising of air incidents that routinely appear on PPRuNe.
On the face of it, XL319's initial post did nothing but mention a routine occurrence for aircraft operating at low level; it had the appearance of 'sensationalism' and a desire to be the first to post this 'earth-shattering news'. Only subsequently, have we unearthed the facts (as far as we know them; another gripe of mine about PPRuNe) which gives this thread any value.
So, my point:
When an incident occurs, let's not get carried away by our speed of response but more await the facts or, if these are known from the outset, post them initially.
Now, pompously (but not arrogantly) returning to my lunch.
foldy
I appreciate the desire to discuss circumstance with regard to air accidents or incidents here on PPRuNe and I am grateful to those who have done so eloquently in the case of this Hawk incident and once some of the facts have come to light. However, I wish to sympathise with higthepig in that, whilst his retort was unnecessary, it did highlight the frustration that many of us feel with regard to the sensationalising of air incidents that routinely appear on PPRuNe.
On the face of it, XL319's initial post did nothing but mention a routine occurrence for aircraft operating at low level; it had the appearance of 'sensationalism' and a desire to be the first to post this 'earth-shattering news'. Only subsequently, have we unearthed the facts (as far as we know them; another gripe of mine about PPRuNe) which gives this thread any value.
So, my point:
When an incident occurs, let's not get carried away by our speed of response but more await the facts or, if these are known from the outset, post them initially.
Now, pompously (but not arrogantly) returning to my lunch.
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It was a purposeful vague statement in order to create a wider discussion(this is a forum for open debate)!!! Seems like it worked bar one reply! I rest my case
I wonder why so many forum users are hell bent on turning a thread into a slagging match about other people thoughts or posts!! Reading between the lines it seem's that you enjoy causing friction amongst members whilst hiding behind the illusion of a very well thought "constructive" comment.
I wonder why so many forum users are hell bent on turning a thread into a slagging match about other people thoughts or posts!! Reading between the lines it seem's that you enjoy causing friction amongst members whilst hiding behind the illusion of a very well thought "constructive" comment.
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Originally Posted by XL319
It was a purposeful vague statement in order to create a wider discussion(this is a forum for open debate)!!! Seems like it worked bar one reply! I rest my case
I wonder why so many forum users are hell bent on turning a thread into a slagging match about other people thoughts or posts!! Reading between the lines it seem's that you enjoy causing friction amongst members whilst hiding behind the illusion of a very well thought "constructive" comment.
I wonder why so many forum users are hell bent on turning a thread into a slagging match about other people thoughts or posts!! Reading between the lines it seem's that you enjoy causing friction amongst members whilst hiding behind the illusion of a very well thought "constructive" comment.
That aimed at me? If so, no! No attempt to cause friction!
More the opposite actually; oil on troubled waters is the phrase I think!
I just get concerned when non-specific details about aircraft incidents are thrown on the page in order to invite
wider discussion
Foldy
PS. Looking at your profile and your previous posts, despite your 'Serial Number' title, I conclude that you are not ex or active military, probably a 'spotter', possibly a wannabe and having seen the Hawk land wanted some gossip.
PPS. Am I right or wrong?
PPPS. After 38 posts you really ought to amend your profile so that we all know from what position you speak on this forum; you have provided no detail.
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A spotter? That's the funniest thing u've said to me all day. It was good to know I provoked a reaction in the fact that you had to look at my previous posts. My previous post got to you more than i expected.
If your post is a sad excuse of dragging me into a slanging match then it hasn't worked. End of matter!!!
If your post is a sad excuse of dragging me into a slanging match then it hasn't worked. End of matter!!!
Don't really want to be drawn in, but in all honesty and irrespective of the discussion that has subsequently occured, my reaction when I read your initial post was exactly the same as higthepig's and I fully understand where foldingwings is coming from.
Especially when I reviewed other one liners you have posted:
"BMI from MME to LHR engine failed as it was taxiing towards the runway when the Engine failed. All ok "
Especially when I reviewed other one liners you have posted:
"BMI from MME to LHR engine failed as it was taxiing towards the runway when the Engine failed. All ok "
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