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Are any Victor tankers still airworthy?

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Old 16th Aug 2006, 20:51
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As far as I know all of the surviving "whole" Victors are airframe life expired or very close to it. My memories of the Victor go back to my Marham days in the 70's and they were a fantastic sight at night they almost looked like a flying Christmas tree.
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Old 16th Aug 2006, 21:59
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Bruntingthorpe Open Day 27.8.2006

Victor XM715 "Teasin' Tina" will be part of the Bruntingthorpe Open Day where she will be doing a fast taxi up to 135 knots all being well. Come on down to hear those Conways roar!
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Old 16th Aug 2006, 22:07
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Originally Posted by H1HU
She still does her power runs courtesy of an enthusiastic private owner.
http://www.lustylindy.co.uk/ fairly new website with background to the machine and the work the team do.
Even if she could be made to fly the runway is no longer long enough to get the old girl in the air.
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Blimey ... That just sparked some memories from the dim and (not so) distant past!

I can remember visiting Marham post GW1 and being shown round Lindy undergoing servicing in the hangar! I was also at Elvington, as a spotty 18 year old Spacey, for her last flight!

Ho Hum!
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Old 16th Aug 2006, 22:17
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No, no no. Cut them up, melt them down. The Victor was a horrid old queen - difficult to fly, cramped cockpit, bang seats, immersion suits, the MFS, five crew doing what could have been done by two, crystals in the ILS, crap nav kit, crewed by the detritis of 1GP (present company excepted), controlled by 1 GP. Sometimes you should let go.
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Old 16th Aug 2006, 22:51
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Originally Posted by Alex Whittingham
No, no no. Cut them up, melt them down. The Victor was a horrid old queen - difficult to fly, cramped cockpit, bang seats, immersion suits, the MFS, five crew doing what could have been done by two, crystals in the ILS, crap nav kit, crewed by the detritis of 1GP (present company excepted), controlled by 1 GP. Sometimes you should let go.
D'ya know that's exactly what I'd have written about the Shack, only it was 11 Gp, no bang seats and 10 crew. Hell's teeth it was awful...there was no problem letting go! The only thing worse would have been the cramped space of a Victor; at least we had a galley.
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Old 17th Aug 2006, 08:52
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Oh dear, Alex, you have cut me to the core! I'm injured! My beloved Victor!

Ah well, thanks for getting me through the ATPL subjects all those years ago.
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Old 17th Aug 2006, 10:14
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Alex

Whilst agreeing with you about most of your points, perhaps that may be why some people have an affection for the beast, it was always a challenge, I can not let you get away with detritis for the crews. Rogues and vagabonds they may have been as you well know, but certainly in the Tanker time they were as professional a team of operators as any in the Air Force and a lot more professional than some I could mention.
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Old 17th Aug 2006, 11:13
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Ah well, it was slightly tongue in cheek, I'll take the rap and go with rogues and vagabonds. I'll always the remember the flight commander on his IRT who applied three times the variation on the outbound leg... he got a Master Green for that..
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Old 17th Aug 2006, 12:21
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Bruntingthorpe Runway

SFAIK the Bruntingthorpe runway is 10,000 ft long, I don't know if it is all useable. This is easily enough to get any Victor airborne; it wouldn't be legal or safe, but it could be done!
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Old 17th Aug 2006, 13:12
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Remember taking a K2 to Finningley for B-o-B, got airborne with transit to Marham fuel just behind an early Jag. He followed curvature of earth flightpath, we were almost airborne by the upwind end VASIs. Do not think Bruntingthorpe would be a problem.
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Old 18th Aug 2006, 21:02
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Originally Posted by A2QFI
SFAIK the Bruntingthorpe runway is 10,000 ft long, I don't know if it is all useable. This is easily enough to get any Victor airborne; it wouldn't be legal or safe, but it could be done!
It is all useable so it's a perfect place for XM715 to play.

On the second fast taxi run of the 2005 Open Day our pilot, with 20 years experience flying Victors, had the nose wheel off just before throttling back.
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Ah yes! I remember it well
That resonance and drone during taxy (especially at night), same as the Javellin
I was told at the time the donks were Saphires - did they change them?
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Old 19th Aug 2006, 16:25
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B1s were Sapphire powered I seem to recall. K2 was RR Conway powered.
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Old 22nd Aug 2006, 08:18
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Hi,

Just to confrim some things! The runway at elvington is long enough...waaay long enough to take off! As for previous sattements about certain unreliablities, all of lindys MFS (Mystery Flight System ) is still operational, in addition to this every system bar the HDU is operational. This includes all the nav kit, radio gear (RT1 and RT2, VHF and UHF), green satin, the H2S radar etc. On our runs this weekend our nav radar was getting strong cloud returns and crystal current, which is good! The only reason the HDU is not operational is because the RAF nicked it!

We believe that XL231 would be perfectly fit for flight duew to there being little or no corrosion on the airframe and a full RAF maintenance schedule has been followed for the 13 years the ol girl has been on the ground.

However, flying is a pipedream as the CAA would never allow one to fly again, which is a bummer. Oh well, 120kts down the runway with chute billowing will have to do!

Cheers

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Old 22nd Aug 2006, 08:48
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If memory serves me, we had a hell of a problem with the engines just prior to the disbandment of 55. Something to do with the combustion chambers cracking. At one point, I seem to remember, we were down to 2 fully serviceable aircraft, and 3 spare engines. So, unless RR can supply new cans for the Conways, getting one flying again is a non-starter. This is apart from the airframes being out of fatigue life
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