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Local Knowledge:
I happen to live very near where the accident happened, but t'wasn't there at the time. Have been speaking to a fireman who attended the scene though.
Also read in the local rag (Oxfords version of The Evening Standard) that the car involved was not hit by debris but spun off the road whilst being distracted by said aircraft coming over his bonnet at a disturbing speed. It is in the papers so it must be true. (In other words, THE PILOT DID NOT CAUSE ANY CASUALTIES <from my information>)
Also on a humourous note, a witness said that the aircraft was trying to land at Oxford Airport (Kidlington) but the runway was too short. Erm.... a Harrier? But He must know about aviation and what was going through the pilots mind because he was a witness.
Well done to the pilot for selflessly avoiding plenty of obstacles (woodstock, Kidlington and several other villages/houses/businesses). Respect.
Get Well soon RAF Hero.
TC
I happen to live very near where the accident happened, but t'wasn't there at the time. Have been speaking to a fireman who attended the scene though.
Also read in the local rag (Oxfords version of The Evening Standard) that the car involved was not hit by debris but spun off the road whilst being distracted by said aircraft coming over his bonnet at a disturbing speed. It is in the papers so it must be true. (In other words, THE PILOT DID NOT CAUSE ANY CASUALTIES <from my information>)
Also on a humourous note, a witness said that the aircraft was trying to land at Oxford Airport (Kidlington) but the runway was too short. Erm.... a Harrier? But He must know about aviation and what was going through the pilots mind because he was a witness.
Well done to the pilot for selflessly avoiding plenty of obstacles (woodstock, Kidlington and several other villages/houses/businesses). Respect.
Get Well soon RAF Hero.
TC
Serious head on - Glad the pilot got out.
Naughty head on - But as sure as the earth is round stand by for lots of hand wringing and "The pilot or his jet were not to blame - they can't be, God said so"
His Red Arrows tour depends on it!
Love the comment the earth came up and hit him!!
Naughty head on - But as sure as the earth is round stand by for lots of hand wringing and "The pilot or his jet were not to blame - they can't be, God said so"
His Red Arrows tour depends on it!
Love the comment the earth came up and hit him!!
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I don't wish to take anything away from the Harrier pilot and am happy that he is unscathed and that there are no other casualties. However, as far as public knowledge is concerned, it is pure speculation that he/she steered the aircraft away from villages, schools etc.
Knowing RAF pilots as I do, it is quite likely that is indeed what occured but at this stage we have no certain knowledge that the pilot had any control of the aircraft at all. Indeed, once he/she had ejected, the aircraft was certain to crash and and could have flown for miles once the pilot has decamped.
I'm sure all will be explained in due course.
Knowing RAF pilots as I do, it is quite likely that is indeed what occured but at this stage we have no certain knowledge that the pilot had any control of the aircraft at all. Indeed, once he/she had ejected, the aircraft was certain to crash and and could have flown for miles once the pilot has decamped.
I'm sure all will be explained in due course.
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I agree with the post by Paradism.
To witness that waffling sqn ldr on the tele about 'skill and training of the pilot' allowing him to avoid all 'this and that' was absolutely pathetic. Where was he brainwashed? He has clearly read too many 'Boys Own' comics or Biggles yarns!
Does anybody on earth seriously think that the pilot, whilst travelling at mach whatever, could seriously look at his map in the second or two available to him, and identify a school at map reference whatever and then seriously take the time to avoid hitting the thing? Seriously? Really seriously? Very, very, seriously?
The truth will out in due course and it will be on the lines of, ''S*** i'm in trouble and getting out right NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!''
MOD PR so often destroys any credibility it has when they put up some jerk to utter useless and untruthful statements.
PS: Of course, it is great that the pilot escaped with his life.
To witness that waffling sqn ldr on the tele about 'skill and training of the pilot' allowing him to avoid all 'this and that' was absolutely pathetic. Where was he brainwashed? He has clearly read too many 'Boys Own' comics or Biggles yarns!
Does anybody on earth seriously think that the pilot, whilst travelling at mach whatever, could seriously look at his map in the second or two available to him, and identify a school at map reference whatever and then seriously take the time to avoid hitting the thing? Seriously? Really seriously? Very, very, seriously?
The truth will out in due course and it will be on the lines of, ''S*** i'm in trouble and getting out right NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!''
MOD PR so often destroys any credibility it has when they put up some jerk to utter useless and untruthful statements.
PS: Of course, it is great that the pilot escaped with his life.
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Originally Posted by dontbelieveitatall
I agree with the post by Paradism.
Then you are also a moron.
To witness that waffling sqn ldr on the tele about 'skill and training of the pilot' allowing him to avoid all 'this and that' was absolutely pathetic. Where was he brainwashed? He has clearly read too many 'Boys Own' comics or Biggles yarns!
What do you expect the guy to say?
Does anybody on earth seriously think that the pilot, whilst travelling at mach whatever, could seriously look at his map in the second or two available to him, and identify a school at map reference whatever and then seriously take the time to avoid hitting the thing? Seriously? Really seriously? Very, very, seriously?
The pilot was possibly able to look out of the window if slow enough....
The truth will out in due course and it will be on the lines of, ''S*** i'm in trouble and getting out right NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!''
Well reasoned...
MOD PR so often destroys any credibility it has when they put up some jerk to utter useless and untruthful statements.
Could be a career opportunity for you
PS: Of course, it is great that the pilot escaped with his life.
Then you are also a moron.
To witness that waffling sqn ldr on the tele about 'skill and training of the pilot' allowing him to avoid all 'this and that' was absolutely pathetic. Where was he brainwashed? He has clearly read too many 'Boys Own' comics or Biggles yarns!
What do you expect the guy to say?
Does anybody on earth seriously think that the pilot, whilst travelling at mach whatever, could seriously look at his map in the second or two available to him, and identify a school at map reference whatever and then seriously take the time to avoid hitting the thing? Seriously? Really seriously? Very, very, seriously?
The pilot was possibly able to look out of the window if slow enough....
The truth will out in due course and it will be on the lines of, ''S*** i'm in trouble and getting out right NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!''
Well reasoned...
MOD PR so often destroys any credibility it has when they put up some jerk to utter useless and untruthful statements.
Could be a career opportunity for you
PS: Of course, it is great that the pilot escaped with his life.
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I have 2000 hours experience of low level flying in FJs and feel qualified to comment here. A pilot, flying at low level, would not use a map to identify a school and avoid it! In UK almost anything larger than a very small village has a school in it; one would want to avoid the whole place and would try to do so. With a zero/zero ejection seat it is possible to delay ejection if neccessary. Why not wait for the findings of the BOI, instead of speculating about what may have happened and guessing at the pilot's thoughts and actions, which are as yet unknown? In the final analysis we have a lost a/c and have a damaged car with a shocked driver, and it could have been much worse.
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Told you it wouldn't be long before you got that tie..........
And I guess that means you won't be humping any legs for a while!
Good to hear you're ok obviously...........
And I guess that means you won't be humping any legs for a while!
Good to hear you're ok obviously...........
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Originally Posted by dontbelieveitatall
Does anybody on earth seriously think that the pilot, whilst travelling at mach whatever, could seriously look at his map in the second or two available to him, and identify a school at map reference whatever and then seriously take the time to avoid hitting the thing?
Glad that crewman is servicable.
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If the earth really did come up to strike him, then surely the village would have run away from HIM??
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How inconsiderate of this GR9 pilot to crash his aircraft on the way to RIAT. Does he know how annoyed razor61 is at causing such an inconvenience to him. see here. I think the pilot concerned should publically apologise to razor61 and refund his 30 quid.
