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Canadian Cormorant
Anyone got any news on the Crash of the Canadian SAR?
Nothing on Rotorhub. Nothing on Canadian news sites either.
Nothing on Rotorhub. Nothing on Canadian news sites either.
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Location: Great White North eh!
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here we go again...
EE
Why do you assume that WHL personnel are so callous that human lives don't matter?, do you really expect someone to knowlingly put aircrew lives in danger for any reason, let alone a cost one. Every crash reflects poorly on WHL products (whether or not WHLs 'fault') so there is not benefit in the long run.
As you are so 'experienced' and knowledgable about the 101 do you think that 20 years experience by test crews who have (and continue to) fly beyond any release you see count for nothing or what about the Boscombe crews who produce your RTS (not WHL), they check it all so they are part of the grand conspiracy as well I assume...
BTW the pics of the Cormorant show a complete tail rotor so just shutup and get back in your little box until you know what you have something worthwhile to add. The cause of the crash is not known and b******t like yours does no one any good.
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Why do you assume that WHL personnel are so callous that human lives don't matter?, do you really expect someone to knowlingly put aircrew lives in danger for any reason, let alone a cost one. Every crash reflects poorly on WHL products (whether or not WHLs 'fault') so there is not benefit in the long run.
As you are so 'experienced' and knowledgable about the 101 do you think that 20 years experience by test crews who have (and continue to) fly beyond any release you see count for nothing or what about the Boscombe crews who produce your RTS (not WHL), they check it all so they are part of the grand conspiracy as well I assume...
BTW the pics of the Cormorant show a complete tail rotor so just shutup and get back in your little box until you know what you have something worthwhile to add. The cause of the crash is not known and b******t like yours does no one any good.
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Duff Gen
The IPT have said that the aircraft sank in 300’ of water and that the tail boom detached. The pics that I have seen show the tail boom complete, with the cockpit area missing from about the area just aft of the cockpit.
The IPT would appear to be misinformed.
My condolences to all the families at this difficult time.
The IPT would appear to be misinformed.
My condolences to all the families at this difficult time.
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Originally Posted by Spurlash2
The IPT have said that the aircraft sank in 300’ of water and that the tail boom detached. The pics that I have seen show the tail boom complete, with the cockpit area missing from about the area just aft of the cockpit.
The IPT would appear to be misinformed.
My condolences to all the families at this difficult time.
The IPT would appear to be misinformed.
My condolences to all the families at this difficult time.
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Re' Duff Gen
I'd be interested to know who in the IPT gave that gem of info'. The EAs were briefed at 08:30 thursday that the ac was upright in shallow water and that there was no indication of cause at that time. The EAs were also requested by their boss not to discuss/speculate without facts ie photographs and as far as I know thats been the case. 1st photos arrived within couple of hours showing tail intact.
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The pics no longer appear at the site originally seen.
I am led to believe that the IPT is aware.
The a/c looked straight and true, although upside down on the recovery vessel, apart from the missing front end.
The pics no longer appear at the site originally seen.
I am led to believe that the IPT is aware.
The a/c looked straight and true, although upside down on the recovery vessel, apart from the missing front end.
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Flight safety investigator Major Michel Pilon said the wreckage of the CH-149 Cormorant was also found essentially in one piece, with the exception of the parts of the nose, the five main rotor blades and one section of the tail rotor blade. Those pieces were located separately. Investigators are still looking for some smaller sections of the helicopter.
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Sensible (or far from it),
Your highlighted comment re the tail rotor is uncalled for speculation. Both pilots survived and the fleet have not been grounded so let the investigators do their work!
Your highlighted comment re the tail rotor is uncalled for speculation. Both pilots survived and the fleet have not been grounded so let the investigators do their work!
I think the RTS produced by boscombe and based on manufacturers data is about flight envelope limits and how the aircraft can be used by military pilots; it has little to do with testing the integrity and construction of the TR and other components. If the aircraft behaves itself during the testing period but the TR self destructs after 1000 hrs then it comes back to poor design and manufacture.
BTW I am not suggesting the Cormorant crash was TR induced, in fact from the pictures on the Rotorheads forum it would seem to indicate the opposite.
BTW I am not suggesting the Cormorant crash was TR induced, in fact from the pictures on the Rotorheads forum it would seem to indicate the opposite.
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I notice you mention "poor design and manufacture". That may of course be the case or it may be a good design poorly manufactured or even a poor design well manufactured. Or it may be good design and good manufacture and the cause of the accident was something else altogether.
Time will tell.
I notice you mention "poor design and manufacture". That may of course be the case or it may be a good design poorly manufactured or even a poor design well manufactured. Or it may be good design and good manufacture and the cause of the accident was something else altogether.
Time will tell.
Very true paradism - my point was the the RTS process does not deal with those aspects unless the aircraft shows up performance defects or inadequacies that can be attributed to component failures.