Yeovilton Air Day (Including Tornado and Hecules 'incidents') -Merged- pics
Hmmm - a sort of mechanical overspeed detector/LP cock thingy might seem appropriate? Is there really a 'one shot' battery (thermal battery, presumably?) to cope with such failures. 'Compensating errors', I believe is the phrase?
I drive a car whose supercharger, fuel control unit, transmission and virtually everything else are controlled by software.
I can't even kill the ignition in 'D' - so I really, really hope that M-B's software is a bit more reliable than some. 354 bhp when you're not expecting it would seem a very bad idea!
But when you do want it......oooh yes!
OK, OK - yes, I know it has light red seats. Which are emphatically NOT pink!
I drive a car whose supercharger, fuel control unit, transmission and virtually everything else are controlled by software.
I can't even kill the ignition in 'D' - so I really, really hope that M-B's software is a bit more reliable than some. 354 bhp when you're not expecting it would seem a very bad idea!
But when you do want it......oooh yes!
OK, OK - yes, I know it has light red seats. Which are emphatically NOT pink!
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Originally Posted by BEagle
Hmmm - a sort of mechanical overspeed detector/LP cock thingy might seem appropriate? Is there really a 'one shot' battery (thermal battery, presumably?) to cope with such failures. 'Compensating errors', I believe is the phrase?
I drive a car whose supercharger, fuel control unit, transmission and virtually everything else are controlled by software.
I can't even kill the ignition in 'D' - so I really, really hope that M-B's software is a bit more reliable than some. 354 bhp when you're not expecting it would seem a very bad idea!
But when you do want it......oooh yes!
OK, OK - yes, I know it has light red seats. Which are emphatically NOT pink!
I drive a car whose supercharger, fuel control unit, transmission and virtually everything else are controlled by software.
I can't even kill the ignition in 'D' - so I really, really hope that M-B's software is a bit more reliable than some. 354 bhp when you're not expecting it would seem a very bad idea!
But when you do want it......oooh yes!
OK, OK - yes, I know it has light red seats. Which are emphatically NOT pink!
Bowly - thanks!
SLK32 AMG. V6 with supercharger = 354 bhp. 0-60 in 4.8s - top whack electronically limited to 155 mph. But will do 176 mph if you pay through the nose for the limiter to be disabled. Mine is a 2003 model - only 29 were officially imported into the UK...
Not that keen on the new SLK - the interior is like a teenager's bedroom, but with cheapo plastics. The 350 is OK-ish, but the 55 AMG is ugly and overpriced. Nice engine though. The 280 is, well......
But both the 32AMG and 55AMG are probably quicker than a Tornado from 0-100 mph!
Not that keen on the new SLK - the interior is like a teenager's bedroom, but with cheapo plastics. The 350 is OK-ish, but the 55 AMG is ugly and overpriced. Nice engine though. The 280 is, well......
But both the 32AMG and 55AMG are probably quicker than a Tornado from 0-100 mph!
Each to his/her own, but personally I thought the previous 'pagoda' model SL was much prettier.
Not very quick though.....
Any more news on the Tornado?
Not very quick though.....
Any more news on the Tornado?
Extraodinary reading (about the Tornado I mean, not the SLK!). Most modern FADECs have a back up power supply for just this case. Normally it's an engine driven alternator that also serves as a redundent N1/Ng signal in the event of loss of primary N1 signal(s). You cannot certificate a civilian a/c with a FADEC with this failure mode.
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Originally Posted by Mandator
Unfortunately, as well as the CSAS CBs, he also tripped the MECU CBs (this was in the days before the Tornado had much in the way of computers and electronics).
Often had to pull breakers in the front hatch with the A/C holding at the threshold. Crew eager to go, slight confusion in all the heat and noise = Plastic RB199.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the piccies show what looks like a Jetpipe fire to me rather than engine runaway- seem to remember these occurred sometimes if the throttle wasn't quite as HP SHUT as it should be.
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There's a bit of thread creep here...
ISTR the EPS was inactive on the ground due to the WoW switch?
There is no RAT on the Tornado, only the EPS which has both electrical and hydraulic emergency power.
I believe 27mm has the answer - a jet pipe fire...if that was an engine winding up to destruction, surely the flames in the lst few shots would be moving horizontally due to the excess thrust (from an RB199
), and the nosewheel I suspect is unrelated...if you look, it's at full (beyond full 
) right deflection in the first photo, which with power to the hydraulics would mean the pilot holding full right rudder.
ISTR the EPS was inactive on the ground due to the WoW switch?
There is no RAT on the Tornado, only the EPS which has both electrical and hydraulic emergency power.
I believe 27mm has the answer - a jet pipe fire...if that was an engine winding up to destruction, surely the flames in the lst few shots would be moving horizontally due to the excess thrust (from an RB199
), and the nosewheel I suspect is unrelated...if you look, it's at full (beyond full ) right deflection in the first photo, which with power to the hydraulics would mean the pilot holding full right rudder.
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RAF C-130 Landing at Yeovilton Air Day
Anyone heard anything about the RAF Dispay C-130 that had a heavy landing at the Yeovilton Air Day this weekend? It appeared to land heavy, rotating higher than normal, bouncing from the initial touchdown then transfering all the weight to the nosewheel before repeating the process two or three times in a classic PIO style. The rumour at Yeovilton on Sunday was that the aircraft had been stressed beyond its limits and was unable to leave and may be Cat 5 pending survey. Anyone know anything different?
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The Tornado ADV has a RAT!!
...but before I get shot down by the spotters I know the Tornado in the picture is a GR4 and they don't. Looks like a pretty low pressure fire so if something has let go (runaway) it was not a full engagement of combat power to allow him to escape the gnat. 27mm has got the most probable cause "as a fuel leak into the jetpipe".
PA
The Tornado ADV has a RAT!!
...but before I get shot down by the spotters I know the Tornado in the picture is a GR4 and they don't. Looks like a pretty low pressure fire so if something has let go (runaway) it was not a full engagement of combat power to allow him to escape the gnat. 27mm has got the most probable cause "as a fuel leak into the jetpipe".
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I believe the aircraft is back at Lyneham having been flown back as planned and fully servicable. The aircraft debrief would have told the engineers if heavy landing checks were needed - and I doubt that they were as completing them would have delayed its departure.
Apparently it was an 'arrival'
but as far as a Cat 5 goes - the rumour mill is running away with itself!
Apparently it was an 'arrival'
but as far as a Cat 5 goes - the rumour mill is running away with itself!
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Originally Posted by proudfishead
Anyone heard anything about the RAF Dispay C-130 that had a heavy landing at the Yeovilton Air Day this weekend? It appeared to land heavy, rotating higher than normal, bouncing from the initial touchdown then transfering all the weight to the nosewheel before repeating the process two or three times in a classic PIO style. The rumour at Yeovilton on Sunday was that the aircraft had been stressed beyond its limits and was unable to leave and may be Cat 5 pending survey. Anyone know anything different?
