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Old 7th Jul 2006, 11:18
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Pictures of JSF / F-35 pre-rollout and naming today

Here's the beast.
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Odd looking bird, although not as strange as the Boeing proposal, I suppose.

The canopy seems rather on the low side, unlike most modern jets. Any thoughts on how this might affect rearward visibility?
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The blokes chosen to fly this will be quite bright so you can assume they will be able remember where they have been
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That will only apply to the first few courses like always, John. When the shineyness wears off they'll have all sorts of plebs flying them. Then what? A few extra mirrors?
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Lightning II it is...

You know it makes sense.
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Unfortunately not even the first few courses may be that bright. If the Typhoon manning process is repeated it'll be a case of bums in seats and will depend on the allegiance/background of the CAS of the day.

Hopefully when the time comes the chief won't be a Herc mate!!
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 20:41
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Originally Posted by Zoom
Odd looking bird, although not as strange as the Boeing proposal, I suppose.
Well the P-38 was quite elegant.
The Frightning was just......Hmmmm....gone are the days of the phrase....."If it looks right...."
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Originally Posted by Zoom
Odd looking bird, although not as strange as the Boeing proposal, I suppose.
Hmmmm....gone are the days of the phrase....."If it looks right...."

I suppose weapons of war arn't supposed to be pretty......

Perhaps they should have called it the Stuka II instead........
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".....tips the hat to both the US Air Force’s Lockheed P-38 Lightning and the UK Royal Air Force’s English Electric Lightning....."

So sad since the RAF did not even want it in the first place. And the only reason we are getting a decent aircraft is due to the RN (awaiting Jacko's rebuff!).
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 22:33
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So sad since the RAF did not even want it in the first place. And the only reason we are getting a decent aircraft is due to the RN (awaiting Jacko's rebuff!).
Oh Go on then - explain:

a - "decent" - still to be proven?
b - "RAF didn't want it" - didn't need it?
c - "due to RN" - no other choice if they wanted to stay in fixed wing aviation?????
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 23:27
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Err its light blue pushing to retain STOVL capability. The Navy would very like to be in the F35C business.
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AA-1 carries the flags of the eight international nations
As opposed to what? intra-national nations?
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More than 1,200 of you took part in our online poll in which the name 'Black Mamba' won 38% of the vote, just edging out 'Lightning II' with 36%.
Black Mamba... for an aircraft This isnt Ann Summers!
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Any WIWOLs care to comment?
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When I wasn't on Lightnings...

...but of course...
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Saw the Lightning II at Yeovilton today .....very impressive although it looked a tadge small.....smaller than a SHAR. (But faster and with more gadgets)
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What worries me is that someone so obviously cannot count.

The new one is 'Lightning II' - indicating the second - but they make reference to the P38 and EE Lightning - which by my simple reckoning , makes the F35 the THIRD (ie III) to carry that name...

Oh hang on, it's a yank plane, so the EE one clearly doesn't count.

Arrogant .
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Both the previous Lightnings were impresive looking beasts, this one aint!! No one is ever going to call this one "Frightning" .
Personally I think that the VTOL version, with all the clutter associated with the lift fan is a mess too. How many actuators? How many gear boxes? If one of them packs up in the hover, can Biggles react quick enough?
Why didn't they put a Pegasus type engine in it?

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Why didn't they put a Pegasus type engine in it?
And give it an anhedral wing, a bigger canopy and make it subsonic... oh, wait a minute
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What happened to ... If it looks right then...
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