Pictures of JSF / F-35 pre-rollout and naming today
Suspicion breeds confidence
Saw the Lightning II at Yeovilton today .....very impressive although it looked a tadge small.....smaller than a SHAR. (But faster and with more gadgets)
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Didn't the Russians build a VSTOL a/c that used the two engine approach. Apparently it couldn't carry much more than its own weight?
Hmmmm.
It relied on fixed vertical lift fans for vertical flight that were dead weight in horizontal flight.
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Yo Taildragger,
Lightning II because it's the second Lightning in US service and the second in UK's.
If you still want to get picky, go ask those silly asses at EE why they thought theirs was the first.
Lightning II because it's the second Lightning in US service and the second in UK's.
If you still want to get picky, go ask those silly asses at EE why they thought theirs was the first.
Originally Posted by RonO
Yo Taildragger,
Lightning II because it's the second Lightning in US service and the second in UK's.
If you still want to get picky, go ask those silly asses at EE why they thought theirs was the first.
Lightning II because it's the second Lightning in US service and the second in UK's.
If you still want to get picky, go ask those silly asses at EE why they thought theirs was the first.
The original useless un-blown P-38 was called Lightning when entered into RAF service but was rejected soon after with the order for the next batch cancelled.
The US then later adopted the Lightning name itself.
So, the nice folks at EE never thought theirs was the first......even though it'll still always be the best.......
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Originally Posted by GeeRam
Actually, it could loosely be argued that it'd be the 3rd in UK service and 1st to be actually named by the the US, in US service as you lot weren't going to call the P-38 the Lightning, you lot wanted to call it the Atalanta.....
The original useless un-blown P-38 was called Lightning when entered into RAF service but was rejected soon after with the order for the next batch cancelled.
The US then later adopted the Lightning name itself.
So, the nice folks at EE never thought theirs was the first......even though it'll still always be the best.......
The original useless un-blown P-38 was called Lightning when entered into RAF service but was rejected soon after with the order for the next batch cancelled.
The US then later adopted the Lightning name itself.
So, the nice folks at EE never thought theirs was the first......even though it'll still always be the best.......
And for EE for designing the jet Lightning when it was beyond cutting edge. Too bad "you lot" don't still have that capability.........
Originally Posted by brickhistory
Too bad "you lot" don't still have that capability.........
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Originally Posted by GeeRam
Us lot over here could have still had the capability (maybe still has if it was allowed) if those elected over the years by the great unwashed of this isle had wanted to continue making the required investment to do so.......
Other than mild humo(u)r, please don't take my comment too harshly.
Frankly, I wish you still did have the capability. Not only has the British aerospace built some absolutely fantastic machines, but some more good healthy rivals abroad would make my countries' few remaining aerospace firms more responsive, more innovative, and less arrogant.
Originally Posted by RonO
So I guess Dave will just be Lightning.
Can't ever seeing it being refered to the name Lightning over here.......
The Frightning maybe, but not endearingly, more because it's frightningly ugly......
Mind you, nearly 20 years on from it's retirement, there's not many ex-Lightning people left in now to get the hump about it...?
And as for us not doing the Lightning II or whatever, I seem to recall most including the US service's always called the A-10 the A-10 Warthog rather than the A-10 Thunderbolt II or how many actually refered to the F-4 as the Phantom II.......
Anyway, banter aside, I can't believe the powers that be are that mentally challanged that we can't come up with an unused name. It's not as if we have to come up with 10-20 new names a year is it......
