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Old 4th Jul 2006, 20:36
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Anyone done CCS recently? Haven't been in a position to do it for some time and will be getting tested in the next few days. Any hints??
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Old 4th Jul 2006, 20:57
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Just try and grin and bear it, another waste of a day of your life, but it should be over by 4-30.

Why oh why do they (at Waddington at least) feel the need to start at 7-30; the day is long enough as it is, never mind some c*%p briefing by a policeman who turns up late each time I have been there the last two years.
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especially as you can never remember anything that you 'learnt', the next day!
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Two top tips:

(1) Swot up on the aide memoire the night before.

(2) Don't pee the Regiment Sgt/Cpl off too much (arriving late/incorrectly dressed etc) especially if you are with a group of officers otherwise you are likely to have 3 or 4 tablets lit in the chamber as opposed to 1.
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Having seen one of my colleagues who used to like attending in greatcoat and SD hat, I don't think I will pee the Regt Cpl off too much. At least I have a couple of days to swot up...where's my copy of 'Survive to Fight'? Are we still using the S6?
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It always p!sses me off that we pamper to the whims of blunites. Turning up late and more tablets..........where do they get off. If only they knew how pointless their trg is eh?

Had a great comment a few years back, I hadn't touched the gun for over a year and after being told to take it apart, my performance was commented on by some Regt Cpl, who claimed that I was a bit rusty at which point I really felt like asking him to come and do my job once a year and I would appraise him of his performance.

Bottom line is, I could be an 'expert' in his job in 7 days, whereas it would take him 4 years to be even considered competent in mine. That is assuming he knew his @rse from his elbow in the first instance (doubtful).

Satisfying to remind the blunt one's where they come in the food chain. Any blunties reading this then I make no apologies, You know who you are, and if the RAFP (acting) Cpl is late next time I am on CCS, I will ask his Sgt to charge him.

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Some valid points there DS but to say you could master his job in 7 days?! What about Rapier? Oh! ........................................
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Like many of you, I'm always embarassed to be one of Her Maj's O Corps when a buffoon gets all the drills wrong at CCS, points the hollow end of the bang stick in the wrong direction etc.
What's wrong with a night's worth of revision chaps?? The latest version of 'Survive to Fight' is available, read on, its not hard!!!
CCS 2 years ago: introduced to the SA80 for the first time. Handed one from the armoury, immediately handed it to the Reg Cpl: "never handled one of these before" I said; only the SLR, SMG, SLP, LMG, PPK etc.....
He took it off me and I was told to come back for 2 days of conversion training. Yer right. Went to another unit for 9mm instead. Anyway, better to do that instead of the Wg Cdr with me that day. He accepted his SA80 eventhough he'd never seen one in years/before, and was the 'special' person in the group. Lots of extra instruction required, in front of the troops. Embarassing to say the least; he was a bluntie though.
Bottom line: RAF=military. It may not be your everyday job to drop bombs, kill people and breaking their stuff, but first aid and weapon handling is CCS. Put some revision in, don't let the side down.
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Rock type, sorry 7 days maybe a bit ambitious, 8 probably more like it as you guys knock off for lunch at 11 and don't start back until 3, followed by the fire section at 4. which only leaves you to sign our CCS cards (in non joined up writing) to allow us to be away by 4.30 pm.

Rapier, I thought that had gone and we had relinquished airfield defence to the pro's

As for the SA80, there is a reason why it has been dubbed the 'civil servant'............ it doesn't work and you can't fire it.

Real officers use the pistol!

As for revising, I will be practising my nuclear bomb drill before I go next time..........really useful guys!! As is changing my canister in CS gas, I am sure that the enemy will never be as vindictive as some Regt Cpl with his 3 tablets. Oh well at least it makes him feel big and hard for a few moments each day.
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Far be it for me (as a retired pongo) to have a pop at an orificer in the RAF, but:

There's certain basic standards to be adhered to in the military, of whatever colour uniform (or even nation). Some of the more obvious ones:

Polish your boots.
Iron your kit.
Cut your hair. (Dutch excepted )
Wear your hat.
Salute officers (if not commissioned)
Return salutes (if commissioned)
Know how to save your comrades life with basic first aid.
Know how to fire and clean your personal weapon.

It's hardly rocket science. Those that feel above these minimal standards, and then complain about slipping standards in the forces should, I feel, have an inward look every now and then. Particularly those with a commission.
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Originally Posted by Dirty Sanchez
7 days maybe a bit ambitious, 8 probably more like it....
Does that include weekends?
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Sanchez, you could always try setting an example.Do you think the blunties look at you & think "my hero" or arrogant c0ck who can't even handle his personnel weapon!
Less self love - more humility!
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It's hardly rocket science. Those that feel above these minimal standards, and then complain about slipping standards in the forces should, I feel, have an inward look every now and then. Particularly those with a commission.
Agreed. It's challenging enough to get my lads to trip along for their annual CCS without my 'superiors' bleating too. Once a year guys, unless you're deploying; in which case you may find it handy.
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"some Regt Cpl with his 3 tablets. Oh well at least it makes him feel big and hard for a few moments each day."

One tablet makes me feel hard for three days, so God knows what three tablets does to you....
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wotpb

would that be personal weapon or is what you describe something more sinister. The only personnel weapon I can think of is JPA

will buck my ideas up and start setting an example.............
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CCS would be a lot easier to bear without all the Regt tea/NAAFI breaks built in; get rid of them, and get it over with an hour earlier!

What did wind me up last week was having to do IRT prior to deploying, and watching/listening to all the same stuff I'd done on CCS the week before. Is this really needed?
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I can understand why your guys still plink away with the SLP, get a First Aid refresher and a firefighting refresher.

But NBC?

"YOU HAVE SENSED HAN NUCLEAR HEXPLOSION" - throw self down in mud with arms tucked underneath and wait for the next Rock-bollox.

"THE SECOND BLAST WAVE HAS PASSED!" - remove bits of people, vehicles, vessels and structures from the armour-plated NBC suit about your person, then do the 'GAS GAS GAS' thing and trudge off to the respirator test facility - 'Gas Chamber' is non-PC - to enjoy Sgt Psycho and his little pellets....

Who has all the WMDs all ready and primed to deliver nuclear nasty? Al Qaeda? The Taletubbies? Certainly not Saddam, eh Tony?

I would have thought a bit more gun, sorry, 'weapon' time and first aid/fire fighting would have been of more use than fartling about with canister changes and pretend combopens.

Lord, how I miss my S10!
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Who has all the WMDs all ready and primed to deliver nuclear nasty? Al Qaeda? The Taletubbies? Certainly not Saddam, eh Tony?
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Maybe North Korea, after today's news?
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We have what seems to be a very similar course, called Core Military Skills (includes First Aid, Basic fire fighting, rope work, civil defence type stuff, exactly the same NBC drills [taken from the British Forces], shooting etc).

After its recent introduction, everyone from the CAF down has to do the initial one week course, and a two day course annually thereafter. I had the ACC (an Air Commodore) on my initial course, and he actually enjoyed it.

Although a tedious course, with little relevance to my trade, it did remind me I'm in the military. Also allowed my to brush up on my shooting, which was a useful catchup, and a good change of scenery.

Sure you have to put up with a Provost for a week (Air Security over here), but it's only another crap Air Force pre-requsite, just like Drill and having to salute Officers. Even if some of them are royal pratts.(ABSOLUTELY nothing personal intended towards any PPRuNers, just speaking from some personal experiences).
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Arrive a few minutes late, in a flying suit...then announce..."Sorry I'm late Corps, I've forgot me gas mask, what time we going in the gas chamber and by the way, theres no bullets in me gun!" Good Luck.
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