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Would You Do This For Another Soldier's Daughter?

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Old 5th Jul 2006, 22:15
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I have trouble coming to grips with those (selac66) that seem to think there are good wars and there are bad wars. Why did we go to war just because Adolph invaded Poland? Why didn't the Brit government of the day accept Adolph's overtures of peace. Why do conspiracies abound that the Yanks knew Pearl Harbour was coming but did nothing about it because they needed an excuse to get into the ****fight. Why was WW1 fought. Why did we fight the Boer war. Vietnam, Korea, the next one - North Korea - because boys its human nature!
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Old 6th Jul 2006, 00:57
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Originally Posted by eagle 86
I have trouble coming to grips with those (selac66) that seem to think there are good wars and there are bad wars. ........E86
I don't suppose you meant it the way I read this, at least I hope not, but this logic say's that because I am pi.s.d off at NZ for beating us at rugby again, we will declare war on them and beat the tripe out them with our servicable 3 f111's and 4 f18's supported by a couple of rustbucket ships the yanks sold us a few of years ago. This should be no problem as there is no such thing as a good or bad war and because we took on Germany and Japan in 1939 and that was accepted anything now goes (unless they flog us as in the rugby. they must cheat as there are only 4 car loads of em left over there, the rest are here now ) After all it is just human nature.

What a load of tripe. That is 'school yard' bully type mentality that even the most bone-headed, un-pc of us know is not acceptable in todays society. That does not mean it doesn't happen ie Balkans Somalia etc of course.

Whilst those of us lucky enough to live in democracies, continue this luck, we all have the opportunity to have our own opions of the rights or wrongs of any action commited by goverments in our names. I happen to be one of a fair number in my country who believe we were wrong to get invoved in this escapade and the fact that we were/believe we were missled will make it much harder to trust our leaders if confronted with a more crucial decision later ie Iran, North Korea and I think this is a blight on our leaders involved in this folly.

I would also say that we made the mess that is Iraq and should not just walk away now because it is too hard to fix. It should be our duty to see that it is put right whatever the cost. I wish it wasn't seen just as an oportunity for a few large companies to make an obscene profit whilst genearting very little results. Just google oil pipline across Tigris river to see an example of what is wrong with the system as it stands. The US is trying to do the right thing but too many have taken the opportunity of zero accountability at times to do the morally wrong thing. Just because they cannot be prosecuted does not make it right.

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Old 6th Jul 2006, 05:19
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Keep this rubbish out of Pprune!

Sorry, but this story is what is called "glurge" its a fabrication used for propaganda purposes and there is a lot of it on the internet promoting the Iraq war and how the troops are saving us from being murdered in our beds by muslims.

From Wikipedia:"Glurge is a neologism describing a certain kind of melodramatic, saccharine story. The defining characteristic of glurge is that, while its purpose is to make the reader happy, the feel-good aspect is so overdone that some readers are likely to be nauseated rather than inspired. It often has a religious theme and is most commonly circulated via e-mail in the form of a chain letter. The term was coined in 1998 by regular Urban Legends Reference Pages forum contributor Pat Chapin as an onomatopoeia to communicate the feeling evoked by reading these missives. According to the Urban Legends Reference Pages, glurge is "the sending of inspirational (often supposedly 'true') tales that conceal much darker meanings than the uplifting moral lessons they purport to offer, and that undermine their messages by fabricating and distorting historical fact in the guise of offering a 'true story.'"

Classics include "The letter to his sons from a retired Attorney" and the one about the guard detail on a stormy winter night at the tomb of the unknown soldier.

Don't believe a word of this bollocks, it's written by professionals to elicit just the reactions some of you are displaying. The only bit that was missing was the usual last paragraph about how the Liberals are losing us the war and how we must support the Bush administration to prevent another 911. Goebbels couldn't do it better.

Here is the website it came from.

http://www.operation-support-our-troops.org/

This website and others like it, are simply trying to confuse "supporting the troops" with supporting the war in Iraq and Afghanisatn, both of which are total fiascos, as well as labelling anyone who thinks that the Bush/Blair team are war criminals who deserve to be hung, as "not supporting the troops".

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Old 6th Jul 2006, 05:41
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Sunfish,
Then I suppose all the anti-war propaganda isn't.
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Old 6th Jul 2006, 07:00
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Who cares if it is Glurge. If it raises the public perception and awareness of servicemen then bring it on. Make the country proud of the boys and girls, help them get their news stories in perspective, maybe even say thankyou. Sadly at the moment, I get the impression that much of the population is willing Natasha Kaplinsky to finish the stroy about the dead servicemen so they can find out about Beckham's latest tattoo...
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Old 10th Jul 2006, 12:52
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I have no idea whether the original story in this thread is true.

A friend's son-in-law just got back from a very sand place on leave. He arrived here at BOS in his desert camo just last week. As many of you might know, people in Boston tend to be more reserved than elsewhere in the US. In addition, Boston is very liberal and has a larger proportion of opponents to the war than most other parts of the US.

This fellow was stopped numerous times as he walked through the airport by people coming up to him to shake his hand and thank him.

Outside the airport, the car-service drivers waiting for their passengers all walked over to shake his hand.
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Old 10th Jul 2006, 13:17
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It doesnt matter if stories like this are true!
Goebbels wouldnt have wrote stories like this i think you will find, more stories of contempt and loathing of jews, which is why he was a war criminal!

These 'stories' true or false are intended to help support servicemen who are just doing their job whther it be right or wrong!
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Old 10th Jul 2006, 13:27
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If gushing public support is what you are after then I suggest a stint with HM forces is not your thing. Changing your mind when the balloon goes up is like complaining about your newly built house at the airport. You may also notice that the importance of military (or covert) personnel is inversely proportional to their public acclaim.
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