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Originally Posted by vecvechookattack
Weve been through this though....We don't need a new Nimrod...there is no requirment... Bin it
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Could you please me what you base your argument on? Only, I'd like to tell the missus why I'm spending nearly half the year, every year, away OOA.
Now that the SHAR force has gone, perhaps we can retire the carrier fleet, that should save some money. Oh that's right, they do other things aswell, apart from carrying fast jets! Muppet
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Could you please me what you base your argument on? Only, I'd like to tell the missus why I'm spending nearly half the year, every year, away OOA.
Now that the SHAR force has gone, perhaps we can retire the carrier fleet, that should save some money. Oh that's right, they do other things aswell, apart from carrying fast jets! Muppet
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Retire the Carrier fleet !!!!!! Switch on fella. Where have you been? We retired the Carrier Fleet 3 years ago. We have but the singleton left and at the moment she is far far away
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I thought we still had 2. Aswell as Argus and Ocean. Ok, not exactly carriers, not in the traditional sense, but still carriers after a fashion.
I wasn't trying to pi$$ you off, but I get a bit defensive when people make ill informed statements about something they don't know.
ASW is not totally dead, we still train for it. Lots of countries in strategic choke points have submarines, and indeed are buying and developing them. What does that tell you? Remember, the Germans went glider crazy in the thirties, whilst we were downsizing.
I thought we still had 2. Aswell as Argus and Ocean. Ok, not exactly carriers, not in the traditional sense, but still carriers after a fashion.
I wasn't trying to pi$$ you off, but I get a bit defensive when people make ill informed statements about something they don't know.
ASW is not totally dead, we still train for it. Lots of countries in strategic choke points have submarines, and indeed are buying and developing them. What does that tell you? Remember, the Germans went glider crazy in the thirties, whilst we were downsizing.
We retired the Carrier Fleet 3 years ago
Retires to bunker with tin hat and supplies for long siege
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Originally Posted by BEagle
But presumably not a couple of aircraft-less carriers to take the RN from cockersP to cockersP around the world at a sedate pace?
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). While we are waiting for the next war, we shall enjoy our cockersP (only because the CDR ordered us to)Standingby...
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Originally Posted by Radar Riser
Now that the SHAR force has gone, perhaps we can retire the carrier fleet, that should save some money. Oh that's right, they do other things aswell, apart from carrying fast jets! Muppet
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I know what, lets cut more useless RAF bases and give them the carriers in replacement - but they need to pay as the RN can not pay to keep the nations nuclear force going AND the new RAF bases.
Back to reality....role on the next Falklands war, then the need for CVF will strike home. Lets hope the Argentinians can wait until we are ready.
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Originally Posted by BEagle
We have to move Australia to stop dull fish-heads bumping their boats into the only rocks for thousands of miles......
T, I have no come back!!!! Didn't see that coming.
Still, at least it was a fishhead that crashed it, not a WAFU.
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Originally Posted by SARREMF
Wasn't actually our Naval assets that 'dropped' the iron though was it! It was the big buys not us from the kindagarten trying to act older!
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Originally Posted by Razordome
S T, I have no come back!!!! Didn't see that coming.
Still, at least it was a fishhead that crashed it, not a WAFU.
T, I have no come back!!!! Didn't see that coming. Still, at least it was a fishhead that crashed it, not a WAFU.
If only that was true. I think you'll find that it was a WAFU who crashed it.
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Originally Posted by Razordome
S T, I have no come back!!!! Didn't see that coming.
Still, at least it was a fishhead that crashed it, not a WAFU.
T, I have no come back!!!! Didn't see that coming. Still, at least it was a fishhead that crashed it, not a WAFU.
Bin the RAF Harrier.. did nothing after the Falklands for years, then learnt to land on a boat.
Only went to part 2 of the GW because they had managed to get enough people in the right places of power, to put enough pressure on to give them a war to go to. What did it do when it got there, produced a video of the action "from the cockpit" - wow!
Can't carry enough when taking off vertically, can only carry a bit when doing its short take off thing, and has to dump its load when not used, to land on the boat, hence the FARP concept.
Jaguar is cheaper and was more effective money wise than the Harrier will ever be.
It hovers - big deal! Use it the American Marine way or don't bother.
Only went to part 2 of the GW because they had managed to get enough people in the right places of power, to put enough pressure on to give them a war to go to. What did it do when it got there, produced a video of the action "from the cockpit" - wow!
Can't carry enough when taking off vertically, can only carry a bit when doing its short take off thing, and has to dump its load when not used, to land on the boat, hence the FARP concept.
Jaguar is cheaper and was more effective money wise than the Harrier will ever be.
It hovers - big deal! Use it the American Marine way or don't bother.
Subdi no doubt it is, but it could be done by other aircraft.
Much malained as it was, with the Jaguar you got a lot of bang for your buck.
The Tornado has also proven its worth.
Much malained as it was, with the Jaguar you got a lot of bang for your buck.
The Tornado has also proven its worth.