What's in a name.........TSR2 ?
"There was no USN F111.
The USN version of the TFX was the F12."
Nah!
The YF-12 was the fighter version of the Blackbird family (A-11, YF-12, SR-71), and the USN F-111 was the F-111B.
The USN version of the TFX was the F12."
Nah!
The YF-12 was the fighter version of the Blackbird family (A-11, YF-12, SR-71), and the USN F-111 was the F-111B.
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Originally Posted by Brewster Buffalo
I presume the missiles would have to go into the TSR2 bomb bay..
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Originally Posted by fightingchickenplumb
not neccesarily brewster the bac litrature kicking around in the 60s stated 4 underwing pylons would be itted at a later date for a future stand off ASM,problem is am buggered if i can remember the name of the program although no i think about it a trapeeze arrangement ala F102/6 would be a good idea
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Missiles in the bomb bay- think it would blow the aerodynamics to hell if doors had to be opened as the ac was having to manouevre to get a target. Remember reading somewhere that F102/F106 had serious problems against aggressively flown targets. Perhaps we can persuade the bad guys to fly straight and level?
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You are very close to a story about a Valley instructor in the 60's who was teaching air combat to the Saudis and Jordanians
"Complete the manoeuvre, fly straight and level for 15 secs, next manoeuvre, straight and level for 15 secs"
Sqn Boss got wind and said " What the fcuk is going on Bloggs, this is not in the syllabus"
"No Boss", said Bloggs, " But we might have to fight these b*st*rds someday"
As an aside, was the TSR2 not built by Shorts in Belfast?
You are very close to a story about a Valley instructor in the 60's who was teaching air combat to the Saudis and Jordanians
"Complete the manoeuvre, fly straight and level for 15 secs, next manoeuvre, straight and level for 15 secs"
Sqn Boss got wind and said " What the fcuk is going on Bloggs, this is not in the syllabus"
"No Boss", said Bloggs, " But we might have to fight these b*st*rds someday"
As an aside, was the TSR2 not built by Shorts in Belfast?
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TSR1 would have been the Mossie - but De havilland didn't use numbers back then.
TSR2 should have been called the Camel - a thoroughbred designed by a committee.
When it was scrapped they still hadn't got the landing gear, air conditioning or electrical systems to work properly. The landing gear in particular seemed to need a complete re-design from all accounts. The test pilots were always upbeat in public, but it would have been interesting to be a fly on the wall at post-flight de-briefs.
From a military viewpoint, TSR2's most enduring legacy was the complete overhaul of the RAF's antiquated WW II maintenance set-up and the new trades and trade groups that emerged. For that alone it was all worthwhile.
TSR2 should have been called the Camel - a thoroughbred designed by a committee.
When it was scrapped they still hadn't got the landing gear, air conditioning or electrical systems to work properly. The landing gear in particular seemed to need a complete re-design from all accounts. The test pilots were always upbeat in public, but it would have been interesting to be a fly on the wall at post-flight de-briefs.
From a military viewpoint, TSR2's most enduring legacy was the complete overhaul of the RAF's antiquated WW II maintenance set-up and the new trades and trade groups that emerged. For that alone it was all worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by buoy15
Kitbag
As an aside, was the TSR2 not built by Shorts in Belfast?
As an aside, was the TSR2 not built by Shorts in Belfast?
