The JPA Cocktail Party - I Sh!t you not
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Talking FRI....
Gather that we're not a million miles away from the next round. The money's still in the pot. Approval is still current from the last batch. Not exactly sure what point you receive it but believe it's going to leave a few who dipped out last time a tad frustrated.
I also understand the powers that be are aware that the FRI will need to be fairly hefty to prevent the exodus that is occurring as people are leaving early for seniority in the airlines. The last FRI won't do the job.
Gather the latest take-up of PA was laughably low. Again, you've got to pay someone an amount that's significantly greater than the lump sum you get when you commute at 38 and to compensate for your pay relative to the professionals in civil aviation.
No doubt all of this will receive an input from JPA, so we can expect Plt Offs to recive the FRI whils those near an option point will end up paying a 1000% SFA charge increase
Indie Cent, you can always pay back the FRI and pocket the interest you've earnt over the last couple of years, unless you've spent the lot already.........
Gather that we're not a million miles away from the next round. The money's still in the pot. Approval is still current from the last batch. Not exactly sure what point you receive it but believe it's going to leave a few who dipped out last time a tad frustrated.
I also understand the powers that be are aware that the FRI will need to be fairly hefty to prevent the exodus that is occurring as people are leaving early for seniority in the airlines. The last FRI won't do the job.
Gather the latest take-up of PA was laughably low. Again, you've got to pay someone an amount that's significantly greater than the lump sum you get when you commute at 38 and to compensate for your pay relative to the professionals in civil aviation.
No doubt all of this will receive an input from JPA, so we can expect Plt Offs to recive the FRI whils those near an option point will end up paying a 1000% SFA charge increase
Indie Cent, you can always pay back the FRI and pocket the interest you've earnt over the last couple of years, unless you've spent the lot already.........
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The problem with the security isn't so much as people can crack the system but rather that a lack of SSL means that they don't need to.
Every time you access your JPA account, the information (bank details, NI number, Passport number, etc.) are sent across the RLI in plain-text so you are effectively handing your details to anyone with a care to look. Mind you, your username and password and those of the professional users are also sent in plain-text......
As stated earlier in this thread, civvy HRMS uses SSL so why don't they afford the same level of protection to our details.
Every time you access your JPA account, the information (bank details, NI number, Passport number, etc.) are sent across the RLI in plain-text so you are effectively handing your details to anyone with a care to look. Mind you, your username and password and those of the professional users are also sent in plain-text......
As stated earlier in this thread, civvy HRMS uses SSL so why don't they afford the same level of protection to our details.
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Enabling SSL is a 5 minute job on a modern system, creating the certificate is probably the more time consuming part! However, it *does* add a processor overhead to the server and, given how the thing seems to be working at well over it's expected capacity, I'd imagine it's been turned off to try and give the system a little more headroom. Anyone see padlocks on day 1?
The alternative explanation that it wasn't in the original spec just leaves me bewildered...
The alternative explanation that it wasn't in the original spec just leaves me bewildered...
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Ffpuken,
It's really not a question of repaying money, as well you know. (Now I've told you!)
It is all to do with the 20/20 hindsight that one now has to see an alternative path before making the decision to stay to the IPP.
For those who missed the FRI and are staying in, and are putting up with all the crap you mentioned AND the JPA fiasco, it must feel like rolling in salt following a good birching!!!!!
Actually maybe a good cocktail party is just the ticket! An Air Force wide bash with free booze for all - just to apologise, profusely.
...And then they can sort this debacle. Pronto.
It's really not a question of repaying money, as well you know. (Now I've told you!)
It is all to do with the 20/20 hindsight that one now has to see an alternative path before making the decision to stay to the IPP.
For those who missed the FRI and are staying in, and are putting up with all the crap you mentioned AND the JPA fiasco, it must feel like rolling in salt following a good birching!!!!!
Actually maybe a good cocktail party is just the ticket! An Air Force wide bash with free booze for all - just to apologise, profusely.
...And then they can sort this debacle. Pronto.
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Is there anyone here with the legal knowledge who could explain the legalities of A N Other displaying our personal details inc NI numbers/bank details on a site deemed insecure by some? And how insecure would it have to be to be deemed unsafe? given that it is a remote network albeit with only password protection
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Originally Posted by The Rogue
Is there anyone here with the legal knowledge who could explain the legalities of A N Other displaying our personal details inc NI numbers/bank details on a site deemed insecure by some? And how insecure would it have to be to be deemed unsafe? given that it is a remote network albeit with only password protection
Originally Posted by Almost_done
Excerpts from the Data Protection Act 1998 Ch 29.
Principal Seven
Appropriate technical and organisational measures shall be taken against unauthorised or unlawful processing of personal data and against accidental loss or destruction of, or damage to, personal data.
Interpretation of Principal Seven
Having regard to the state of technological development and the cost of implementing any measures, the measures must ensure a level of security appropriate to-
(a) the harm that might result from such unauthorised or unlawful processing or accidental loss, destruction or damage as are mentioned in the seventh principle, and
(b) the nature of the data to be protected.
Principal Seven
Appropriate technical and organisational measures shall be taken against unauthorised or unlawful processing of personal data and against accidental loss or destruction of, or damage to, personal data.
Interpretation of Principal Seven
Having regard to the state of technological development and the cost of implementing any measures, the measures must ensure a level of security appropriate to-
(a) the harm that might result from such unauthorised or unlawful processing or accidental loss, destruction or damage as are mentioned in the seventh principle, and
(b) the nature of the data to be protected.
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How much would it take to keep you in past 38?
For me, considering the current Dets, JPA, standard of living, lack of support etc, it would have to be around £100 000.00, tax free. Then I'd another 5 years.
I took the FRI last time round. £30 000.00 taxed at 40% = £18 000.00. Then tax and NI for the rest of the year cost around another £1000.00. Then I lost tax credits for another £1000.00.
I got about £16 000.00 in the end. Wouldn't take it if it was offered again.
For me, considering the current Dets, JPA, standard of living, lack of support etc, it would have to be around £100 000.00, tax free. Then I'd another 5 years.
I took the FRI last time round. £30 000.00 taxed at 40% = £18 000.00. Then tax and NI for the rest of the year cost around another £1000.00. Then I lost tax credits for another £1000.00.
I got about £16 000.00 in the end. Wouldn't take it if it was offered again.
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D-IFF Ident:
You're spot on. 100k is about the right amount post-tax to keep people on post 38 and the measly FRI1 would only be good to temporarily keep in an investment account till you PVR/Take option point. Has to be a substantial amount to actually spend it
You're spot on. 100k is about the right amount post-tax to keep people on post 38 and the measly FRI1 would only be good to temporarily keep in an investment account till you PVR/Take option point. Has to be a substantial amount to actually spend it
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Customer Care
I hope you have all recieved your Customer Care Charter from AFPAA, gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling. Best one is to answer all telephone calls within 50 Sec, well I suppose if you look at a 24hr timeframe I am sure that they manage that, however if we take a 8 to 5 day well stats may tell a different story.
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JPA Customer (Don't) Care Charter
Yes, received it today. Can't we get them under the Trades Description Act? It would have been funny if it wasn't causing so much disruption and annoyance.
Called into PSF yesterday and asked one of the clerks how it was going. He looked absolutely weary and maxed-out, having just fielded yet another abusive phone call from a disgruntled JPA victim. The B-word has a lot to answer for in setting this fiasco in motion. What's he doing now, by the way?
Called into PSF yesterday and asked one of the clerks how it was going. He looked absolutely weary and maxed-out, having just fielded yet another abusive phone call from a disgruntled JPA victim. The B-word has a lot to answer for in setting this fiasco in motion. What's he doing now, by the way?
Originally Posted by rudekid
Is it me or does anyone else find it ridiculous they can send the customer charter to my home address and the new pay statement only to a work address?
Now that's progress...
Now that's progress...
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Originally Posted by Skeleton
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Re your post about padlocks and double clicks...
You may have the boots in here but you know nothing about PC security.
nuff said.
Re your post about padlocks and double clicks...
You may have the boots in here but you know nothing about PC security.
nuff said.
