Harry's Passing Out
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Harry's Passing Out
This is not a dig!!!
In photo's I noticed that Harry and William have medals on thier uniform. Could anyone enlighten me as to how a cadet in training gets a medal ?
Okay, maybe a little alcohol induced dig. But not a big one. Honest.
In photo's I noticed that Harry and William have medals on thier uniform. Could anyone enlighten me as to how a cadet in training gets a medal ?
Okay, maybe a little alcohol induced dig. But not a big one. Honest.
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Its simple really.
It's Golden Jubilee medal. Whereas there was a requirement to have been serving for 5 years (?) for anyone in the military, HM the Queen obviously decided that she could award them to members of her own family. After all it is her medal.
It's Golden Jubilee medal. Whereas there was a requirement to have been serving for 5 years (?) for anyone in the military, HM the Queen obviously decided that she could award them to members of her own family. After all it is her medal.
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All family members of the Sovereign (and their household staff) are given Coronation and Jubilee medals. This is a well-established practice (certainly pre-Queen Vic). It puzzled me when I saw it first, but that is the score!
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Originally Posted by ExRAFRadar
This is not a dig!!!
In photo's I noticed that Harry and William have medals on thier uniform. Could anyone enlighten me as to how a cadet in training gets a medal ?
Okay, maybe a little alcohol induced dig. But not a big one. Honest.
In photo's I noticed that Harry and William have medals on thier uniform. Could anyone enlighten me as to how a cadet in training gets a medal ?
Okay, maybe a little alcohol induced dig. But not a big one. Honest.
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Was that said with 'Tounge-In-Cheek' Jack.
We are only having a grin
Good luck to em both (although the chaps who may have to serve with them in a combat area may have something else to say)
We are only having a grin
Good luck to em both (although the chaps who may have to serve with them in a combat area may have something else to say)
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Would you want to work with an officer that attracted so much attention?
I'm sure the people that the UK military face put absolutely no value on the fact that they are members of the Royal Family. And consequently will in no way target the unit that the young Royals may serve with.
And do not give me that bull about Andrew in the Falklands. Flying a helicopter in the South Atlantic does in no way equal a ground pounder (Tanked up or not) on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan. Not many insurgents in the Oggin….
I'm sure the people that the UK military face put absolutely no value on the fact that they are members of the Royal Family. And consequently will in no way target the unit that the young Royals may serve with.
And do not give me that bull about Andrew in the Falklands. Flying a helicopter in the South Atlantic does in no way equal a ground pounder (Tanked up or not) on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan. Not many insurgents in the Oggin….
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Ex RAFRadar,
May I suggest that you invest some time to research exactly the task the Sea Kings were carrying out during the Falklands War then reconsider your exceedingly stupid comment about "not many insurgents in the oggin."
May I suggest that you invest some time to research exactly the task the Sea Kings were carrying out during the Falklands War then reconsider your exceedingly stupid comment about "not many insurgents in the oggin."
"And do not give me that bull about Andrew in the Falklands"
Being a Yank, I'm usually one of the first to take a shot at that silly king/queen thing. That said, Andy faced as much danger as any sitting on what was essentially picket duty in a helo.
Being a Yank, I'm usually one of the first to take a shot at that silly king/queen thing. That said, Andy faced as much danger as any sitting on what was essentially picket duty in a helo.
I think the point ExRAFRadar was trying to make is as follows:
Harry joins Blues and Royals (or whatever cavarly outfit) and commands 10+ lucky chaps in a recce unit. Blues and Royals go to Iraq. Bad guys target Blues and Royals specifically and intensively, over and above the attacks on any other British Army unit, in the hope of getting a royal scalp. Therefore, while Harry may be happy to 'do his bit' his presence is increasing the risk for the very men he is suppose to be looking after!!! His troops potentially pay in blood for him to satisfy his ego.
The Argentinians did not try to target Andrew during the Falklands war, nor did they fly more sorties because they knew he was there. His presence did not increase the risk to the Task Force or his comrades in the slightest! I for one am not questioning his valour or the contribution he made.
This, in a nutshell I believe was the arguement being made, sufficiently clearly for me to appreciate it. I must also say I think it has merits.......
Harry joins Blues and Royals (or whatever cavarly outfit) and commands 10+ lucky chaps in a recce unit. Blues and Royals go to Iraq. Bad guys target Blues and Royals specifically and intensively, over and above the attacks on any other British Army unit, in the hope of getting a royal scalp. Therefore, while Harry may be happy to 'do his bit' his presence is increasing the risk for the very men he is suppose to be looking after!!! His troops potentially pay in blood for him to satisfy his ego.
The Argentinians did not try to target Andrew during the Falklands war, nor did they fly more sorties because they knew he was there. His presence did not increase the risk to the Task Force or his comrades in the slightest! I for one am not questioning his valour or the contribution he made.
This, in a nutshell I believe was the arguement being made, sufficiently clearly for me to appreciate it. I must also say I think it has merits.......
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And if William also joins the HC, then the insurgents get double the chance..., though I'd guess that they would not both be in theatre at once.
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Originally Posted by West Coast
Being a Yank, I'm usually one of the first to take a shot at that silly king/queen thing.
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
"Tribal sovereignty means that; it's sovereign. I mean, you're a — you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004
"It is white." —after being asked by a child in Britain what the White House was like, July 19, 2001
'Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country.'
etc, etc, etc
Guess who?
In today's increasingly technocratic armed forces, where the educational standards of the NCOs and soldiers are often rather higher than they were in days gone by, will Harry have an uphill struggle in gaining the respect of his men?
All of the press coverage would lead one to stereotype him (perhaps inaccurately) as an immature, irresponsible and pretty unintelligent, rather thuggish tw@t - a party animal frequenting drug-fuelled parties (not that we're suggesting for one moment that he's been indulging himself), exam-cheating, hitting photographers, dressing in Nazi uniform, etc.
If his men view him in that light, and as a source of greater danger to them, will he find it tougher than any other subaltern to gain their respect?
Will William, with his more intelligent, more responsible, more thoughtful image (and it may be no more than that) have an initial advantage, or is he a bit too 'sensitive'?
All of the press coverage would lead one to stereotype him (perhaps inaccurately) as an immature, irresponsible and pretty unintelligent, rather thuggish tw@t - a party animal frequenting drug-fuelled parties (not that we're suggesting for one moment that he's been indulging himself), exam-cheating, hitting photographers, dressing in Nazi uniform, etc.
If his men view him in that light, and as a source of greater danger to them, will he find it tougher than any other subaltern to gain their respect?
Will William, with his more intelligent, more responsible, more thoughtful image (and it may be no more than that) have an initial advantage, or is he a bit too 'sensitive'?