Harry's Passing Out
oh bore on Jackonicko! He's 20 years old for christ's sake - you obviously don't have much experience of Army officers - he'll fit right in - and as for respect, I'm sure you'd agree he'll have more than someone who's never even put a uniform on.
If his men view him in that light, and as a source of greater danger to them, will he find it tougher than any other subaltern to gain their respect?
Give them both a chance, you never know. Lets face it, at least they have joined up!
Biggus,
That could be said of many of his ancestors me thinks....and they did too!
Give the young lad a break....most of us at his age would qualify for all or most of the attributes he was labelled with...except being a Royal. After all he does qualify as being rich and spoiled does he not, thus he comes by those delinquencies honestly.
His troops potentially pay in blood for him to satisfy his ego.
That could be said of many of his ancestors me thinks....and they did too!
Give the young lad a break....most of us at his age would qualify for all or most of the attributes he was labelled with...except being a Royal. After all he does qualify as being rich and spoiled does he not, thus he comes by those delinquencies honestly.
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jackonicko and all the detractors
Sounds like a bit of envy to me.
The lad is 20 and has 'done good'. I am envious that there weren't and lapdancing establishments when we passed otherwise we should have been there too.
He bashed a journalist who was doing what he shouldn't have been doing (any self respecting person would have done the same, I hope).
If he was cushioned in cotton wool the self same layabouts would be complaining that he wasn't pulling his weight. Do please dry up with the criticisms and stop being boring.
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Sounds like a bit of envy to me.
The lad is 20 and has 'done good'. I am envious that there weren't and lapdancing establishments when we passed otherwise we should have been there too.
He bashed a journalist who was doing what he shouldn't have been doing (any self respecting person would have done the same, I hope).
If he was cushioned in cotton wool the self same layabouts would be complaining that he wasn't pulling his weight. Do please dry up with the criticisms and stop being boring.
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I doubt that any ordinary candidate with Harry's record would have got anywhere near Sandhurst.
Despite the excellent tuition at Eton, he struggled to gain his paltry two A levels, a B in art and a D in geography.
Are the Household Cavalry's standards really that low?
We'll ignore the unproven allegations that he had to cheat to get the Art A level for now.....
Prince Harry was sent to a drugs rehabilitation clinic for a day after he admitted smoking cannabis and drinking heavily at a local pub, said the News of the World.
St James's Palace did not the reports, confirming the prince had "experimented with the drug on several occasions", though stressing that his cannabis use could not be described as "regular."
The usual attitude among PPRuNers to such youthful experimentation with drugs is that it is (and should be) a bar to commissioned service. But not when it's this boorish clown, apparently.
As to the photographer "doing what he shouldn't have been doing", he was photographing a public figure in a public place when this thick yob bashed him.
Harry's side of the story:
"Prince Harry was hit in the face by a camera when photographers crowded around him as he was getting into a car. In pushing the camera away, it's understood that a photographer's lip was cut."
The other side of the story:
"The paparazzi photographer involved, Chris Uncle, said Harry had "deliberately lashed out". Mr Uncle, 24, told the Evening Standard newspaper: "Prince Harry looked like he was inside the car and we were all still taking pictures.
"Then suddenly he burst out of the car and lunged towards me as I was still taking pictures. He lashed out and then deliberately pushed my camera into my face."
The photographer claimed that royal bodyguards dragged the prince away.
The photographer had a number of witnesses who confirmed his story, another press photographer, Charlie Pycraft, confirming that the prince had lunged at Mr Uncle.
"He was half-way getting into the back of the car when he suddenly reacted and lunged at him and grabbed his camera and pushed him against the wall."
He said Prince Harry was restrained by his bodyguard and two doormen from the nightclub."
Though I'm a journo, I have no truck with Royal reporters and paparazzi, who I view as useless parasites. That does not, however, entitle anybody to commit common assault on their persons.
And then there's the judgement he displayed in the Nazi uniform episode.....
I'm most impressed by the calibre of the NCOs and soldiers I've come into contact with, and it's clear to me that the Army is no longer some sort of mirror image of "Carry on Segeant".
I just ask how easily Harry will win the respect of such high calibre blokes......
and I'd question whether he really fits in with the very high calibre blokes that Sandhurst, Cranwell and Dartmouth usually churn out.
Despite the excellent tuition at Eton, he struggled to gain his paltry two A levels, a B in art and a D in geography.
Are the Household Cavalry's standards really that low?
We'll ignore the unproven allegations that he had to cheat to get the Art A level for now.....
Prince Harry was sent to a drugs rehabilitation clinic for a day after he admitted smoking cannabis and drinking heavily at a local pub, said the News of the World.
St James's Palace did not the reports, confirming the prince had "experimented with the drug on several occasions", though stressing that his cannabis use could not be described as "regular."
The usual attitude among PPRuNers to such youthful experimentation with drugs is that it is (and should be) a bar to commissioned service. But not when it's this boorish clown, apparently.
As to the photographer "doing what he shouldn't have been doing", he was photographing a public figure in a public place when this thick yob bashed him.
Harry's side of the story:
"Prince Harry was hit in the face by a camera when photographers crowded around him as he was getting into a car. In pushing the camera away, it's understood that a photographer's lip was cut."
The other side of the story:
"The paparazzi photographer involved, Chris Uncle, said Harry had "deliberately lashed out". Mr Uncle, 24, told the Evening Standard newspaper: "Prince Harry looked like he was inside the car and we were all still taking pictures.
"Then suddenly he burst out of the car and lunged towards me as I was still taking pictures. He lashed out and then deliberately pushed my camera into my face."
The photographer claimed that royal bodyguards dragged the prince away.
The photographer had a number of witnesses who confirmed his story, another press photographer, Charlie Pycraft, confirming that the prince had lunged at Mr Uncle.
"He was half-way getting into the back of the car when he suddenly reacted and lunged at him and grabbed his camera and pushed him against the wall."
He said Prince Harry was restrained by his bodyguard and two doormen from the nightclub."
Though I'm a journo, I have no truck with Royal reporters and paparazzi, who I view as useless parasites. That does not, however, entitle anybody to commit common assault on their persons.
And then there's the judgement he displayed in the Nazi uniform episode.....
I'm most impressed by the calibre of the NCOs and soldiers I've come into contact with, and it's clear to me that the Army is no longer some sort of mirror image of "Carry on Segeant".
I just ask how easily Harry will win the respect of such high calibre blokes......
and I'd question whether he really fits in with the very high calibre blokes that Sandhurst, Cranwell and Dartmouth usually churn out.
give me rogues, brigands and people who are a bit 'handy' any day of the week instead of some nancy boy who'd be better off in the airforce anyway. This isn't the women's auxiliary balloon corps y'know!
As for the drugs - having tried them before joining, he'll be less curious to try them out once in. You're naive if you think the majority of people in RMAS haven't had a toot before joining up. In my intake (early 90's) we were asked to give a no names, no packdrill show of hands of who had tried drugs and well over 75% (including an international sportsman) admitted it.
I'm no royalist, but until Jackonicko tells us all about his own exemplary military career, I for one think he is underqualified to comment on suitability or otherwise. No offence JN, but there you go.
I'm personally looking forward to when he does an exchange with the AAC, where we are all v proud of his old man being our Colonel in Chief.
As for his A-level results, mine were a lot worse. Refreshingly the Army still puts the emphasis on character and natural ability, not solely on qualifications. If it was the other way around, we wouldn't have the fine NCO aircrew we have now, for example.
And you should meet some of my infantry pals - marvellous chaps, but they'd rip your balls off if you looked at them cockeyed. Just the sort of people we need when Tony next cries havoc! and let slip the dogs of war!
As for the drugs - having tried them before joining, he'll be less curious to try them out once in. You're naive if you think the majority of people in RMAS haven't had a toot before joining up. In my intake (early 90's) we were asked to give a no names, no packdrill show of hands of who had tried drugs and well over 75% (including an international sportsman) admitted it.
I'm no royalist, but until Jackonicko tells us all about his own exemplary military career, I for one think he is underqualified to comment on suitability or otherwise. No offence JN, but there you go.
I'm personally looking forward to when he does an exchange with the AAC, where we are all v proud of his old man being our Colonel in Chief.
As for his A-level results, mine were a lot worse. Refreshingly the Army still puts the emphasis on character and natural ability, not solely on qualifications. If it was the other way around, we wouldn't have the fine NCO aircrew we have now, for example.
And you should meet some of my infantry pals - marvellous chaps, but they'd rip your balls off if you looked at them cockeyed. Just the sort of people we need when Tony next cries havoc! and let slip the dogs of war!
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Jackonico
All these revelations Jackonico...what do you expect to gain by your sad harping?
I have just seen that Jaconico is a journo...all is revealed...completely understanadable...wasn't you he popped, was it?
NC43
All these revelations Jackonico...what do you expect to gain by your sad harping?
I have just seen that Jaconico is a journo...all is revealed...completely understanadable...wasn't you he popped, was it?
NC43
Nuts,
That might explain why Jacko's nose is so far out of joint!
That might explain why Jacko's nose is so far out of joint!
Do grow up, boys.
You don't need to have been a clergyman to doubt HRH's qualifications to become a bishop.
You don't need to have worn uniform to discern that Harry doesn't show many signs of being either an officer or a gentleman - though we may have a distorted picture of him, and he may mature into the role even if we haven't.
I have seen frontline units in all three services from fairly close-up. My own military experience was brief, VR and many years ago, so I would make no great claims of military expertise or experience, but I think I know just about enough about the forces to recognise some of what makes a good officer and some of what makes a bad one.
And I've already told you that I don't support, endorse or approve of tabloid journos or paps. (But had a pissed ginge had a go at me, it wouldn't have been my nose out of joint....)
You don't need to have been a clergyman to doubt HRH's qualifications to become a bishop.
You don't need to have worn uniform to discern that Harry doesn't show many signs of being either an officer or a gentleman - though we may have a distorted picture of him, and he may mature into the role even if we haven't.
I have seen frontline units in all three services from fairly close-up. My own military experience was brief, VR and many years ago, so I would make no great claims of military expertise or experience, but I think I know just about enough about the forces to recognise some of what makes a good officer and some of what makes a bad one.
And I've already told you that I don't support, endorse or approve of tabloid journos or paps. (But had a pissed ginge had a go at me, it wouldn't have been my nose out of joint....)
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Originally Posted by Jackonicko
(But had a pissed ginge had a go at me, it wouldn't have been my nose out of joint....)
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You may well think you know what makes a good officer Jacko, but that gives you no right to pass character and professional judgement on someone whom none of us truly know, especially not with our sole source being press reports.
If you know so much about the military, you might be able to tell us what the recruitment policy is on soft drug use. You do not however appear to know.
Leave the recruitment to the pros, and consider your VR experience as I consider mine - experience; not a period of employment. The difference is significant.
The usual attitude among PPRuNers to such youthful experimentation with drugs is that it is (and should be) a bar to commissioned service.
Leave the recruitment to the pros, and consider your VR experience as I consider mine - experience; not a period of employment. The difference is significant.
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Originally Posted by ratty1
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Jackonicko..........fight fight fight.
Jackonicko..........fight fight fight.
Take it to Googlefight!I'll take on the winner.
adr
Yes, it is Saturday night. Why'd'you ask?
I wasn't talking about current official policy on soft drugs - you're right, I don't know - I was talking about attitudes.
And I suspect that like spent convictions soft drugs use might not be a formal bar to entry, but might, in other circumstances, and in the case of other individuals, be taken in conjunction with accusations of assault, exam cheating, and piss poor results lead to rejection in favour of better qualified, more mature, more able candidates.
Unless you know of lots of other Sandhurst candidates with an equally chequered record?
And I suspect that like spent convictions soft drugs use might not be a formal bar to entry, but might, in other circumstances, and in the case of other individuals, be taken in conjunction with accusations of assault, exam cheating, and piss poor results lead to rejection in favour of better qualified, more mature, more able candidates.
Unless you know of lots of other Sandhurst candidates with an equally chequered record?
Why is it...I knew someone would finally get around to blaming it on the American's!
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Originally Posted by Green Flash
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Looking at the photo of his girlfriend in the papers I'd have fainted, graduated, and a whole lot of other things too! He certainly has an eye for da ladies
Looking at the photo of his girlfriend in the papers I'd have fainted, graduated, and a whole lot of other things too! He certainly has an eye for da ladies
Cheers! M2
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Originally Posted by MajorMadMax
Pics, my friend, where are the pics??
Cheers! M2
Cheers! M2
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Re your comment about blaming the Americans...lost on most, I'm afraid.
