C-5 GALAXY CRASH DOVER
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Bird strike theory sounds good
Throes of the the Nimrod crash - lost 2 engines due to ingesting 120 flying rats, (Seagulls or similar) at 800ft - no height to manoeuvre - crashed in the forest
This C5 crew (at AUW whilst dumping), were lucky to have had time to turn back towards the field, but unfortunately hit the undershoot
10/10 for the pilots with a difficult decision, which resulted in no loss of life!
Throes of the the Nimrod crash - lost 2 engines due to ingesting 120 flying rats, (Seagulls or similar) at 800ft - no height to manoeuvre - crashed in the forest
This C5 crew (at AUW whilst dumping), were lucky to have had time to turn back towards the field, but unfortunately hit the undershoot
10/10 for the pilots with a difficult decision, which resulted in no loss of life!
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And who said the C-5 has poor short field performance? They got it into that field no probs! Mind you, they should have remembered the old adage - "look well ahead, keep straight with rudder"! 
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More crash pictures here...
http://www.csharpprogrammer.com/images/c5crash.html
But be quick they'll only be there for 2 hours!! Sorry...
Please download them and pass on. If they aren't there when you look please PM me and I'll send them to you. If anyone has web space available that can host the pictures please let me know.
http://www.csharpprogrammer.com/images/c5crash.html
But be quick they'll only be there for 2 hours!! Sorry...
Please download them and pass on. If they aren't there when you look please PM me and I'll send them to you. If anyone has web space available that can host the pictures please let me know.
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I see from the posted pics that the rear cargo door and ramp are open, would this be as a result of the impact ?
"Possibly, although there is an SOP to jettison cargo in an emergency too"
Really? Source please, particular to the C5.
And an immediate change in CG at a time when you least want it.
Really? Source please, particular to the C5.
And an immediate change in CG at a time when you least want it.
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From a modelling site, oddly enough (Hyperscale)
"This is the current skinny on the crash, -- none of it official -- until the board says so.
It was not a bird ingestion but a "reverser unlock" on the #2 engine that started this. They lost a C-5 with all aboard a few years back in Germany for the same cause. This crew however shut down the engine before an actual unstow took place. The airplane was well over 700K gross weight with FOB of over 300K. The airplane had the newest version of the C-5 flight deck with big panel glass. Unfortunately, only one of the three pilots was really comfortable with the new equipment and FMS.
The crew decided because of their weight to fly their approach to the longest runway, which unfortunately was only being served that day by a Tacan approach. They also decided to fly a full flap approach to keep the approach speed down. This is not prohibited--just highly discouraged. The recommended flap setting for a three engine approach is Flaps 40.
During the approach the crew became worried about not having enough power to fly a full flap approach and selected flaps 40--which they were now too slow for.
Here's the point all you glass cockpit guys should sit up and take notice about.The one guy who was familiar with the new glass and FMS was also the one flying the aircraft. He became distracted inputting the new approach speed in the FMS.
There was also some confusion about just who was flying the A/C while he had his head down updating the speed. Long story short--they got way slow and into the shaker, and actually stuck the tail into the trees and it departed the aircraft first. The nose pitched down hard and the nose and left wing impacted next snapping off the nose.
Several cockpit occupants suffered spinal compression injuries. The guys sitting at the crew table behind the cockpit actually came to a stop with their legs dangling out over the ground.
The miracle of this was the left outboard fuel tank was broken open and none of that fuel managed to find something hot enough to ignite it and the other 300k. Again, a bunch of very lucky people . . or unlucky ! "
"This is the current skinny on the crash, -- none of it official -- until the board says so.
It was not a bird ingestion but a "reverser unlock" on the #2 engine that started this. They lost a C-5 with all aboard a few years back in Germany for the same cause. This crew however shut down the engine before an actual unstow took place. The airplane was well over 700K gross weight with FOB of over 300K. The airplane had the newest version of the C-5 flight deck with big panel glass. Unfortunately, only one of the three pilots was really comfortable with the new equipment and FMS.
The crew decided because of their weight to fly their approach to the longest runway, which unfortunately was only being served that day by a Tacan approach. They also decided to fly a full flap approach to keep the approach speed down. This is not prohibited--just highly discouraged. The recommended flap setting for a three engine approach is Flaps 40.
During the approach the crew became worried about not having enough power to fly a full flap approach and selected flaps 40--which they were now too slow for.
Here's the point all you glass cockpit guys should sit up and take notice about.The one guy who was familiar with the new glass and FMS was also the one flying the aircraft. He became distracted inputting the new approach speed in the FMS.
There was also some confusion about just who was flying the A/C while he had his head down updating the speed. Long story short--they got way slow and into the shaker, and actually stuck the tail into the trees and it departed the aircraft first. The nose pitched down hard and the nose and left wing impacted next snapping off the nose.
Several cockpit occupants suffered spinal compression injuries. The guys sitting at the crew table behind the cockpit actually came to a stop with their legs dangling out over the ground.
The miracle of this was the left outboard fuel tank was broken open and none of that fuel managed to find something hot enough to ignite it and the other 300k. Again, a bunch of very lucky people . . or unlucky ! "
