ANYONE NEED A NEW ROOF?
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ANYONE NEED A NEW ROOF?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...106495,00.htmlCan we expect a rush of compensation claims for 'damage' that the mighty Wokka has caused around the country?
I've got a few loose slates on my roof, and I think I heard an RAF helo fly over once... Honest guv!
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"Mrs Wallinger, 61, said yesterday that the Ministry of Defence had agreed to pay her “substantial compensation” for the damage done to her house.
Prolonged exposure to the vast helicopters has begun to undermine restoration work and the house in Upton Grey, Hampshire, is showing signs of serious wear and tear. Part of the roof is crumpled, cracks are spreading and tiles have been shaken loose. “It’s like a child’s wobbly tooth,” Mrs Wallinger said. “Once it starts, it gets more and more vulnerable.”
Only when Andrew Hunter, then her MP, threatened to raise the matter in the House of Commons did she receive the first of two payouts of about £1,000. The latest pledge is for £3,600, based on an estimate of provable damage.
“The RAF are bullies and they have tried to run roughshod all over me,” Mrs Wallinger said."
Any structural engineers care to comment? Seems unlikely to me unless the wokka hovered over said roof at less than 100'.
A slightly more balanced article in the Telegraph which points out that she moved in long after the Chinooks moved to Odiham.
Prolonged exposure to the vast helicopters has begun to undermine restoration work and the house in Upton Grey, Hampshire, is showing signs of serious wear and tear. Part of the roof is crumpled, cracks are spreading and tiles have been shaken loose. “It’s like a child’s wobbly tooth,” Mrs Wallinger said. “Once it starts, it gets more and more vulnerable.”
Only when Andrew Hunter, then her MP, threatened to raise the matter in the House of Commons did she receive the first of two payouts of about £1,000. The latest pledge is for £3,600, based on an estimate of provable damage.
“The RAF are bullies and they have tried to run roughshod all over me,” Mrs Wallinger said."
Any structural engineers care to comment? Seems unlikely to me unless the wokka hovered over said roof at less than 100'.
A slightly more balanced article in the Telegraph which points out that she moved in long after the Chinooks moved to Odiham.
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If a Chinook can apparently do that sort of damage from 200ft up shouldn't someone move all the trailers and blade boxes near the RTR site at Odiham?
I'll be first to admit (being a humble stacker) that my knowledge of down wash is limited to be blown over whilst waiting to refuel various a/c in some of the worlds finest locations but surely this must be some kind of pay off to stop bad press, not for actual damage?
Seems to be another case of people buying houses underneath the approach to long-standing airfields moaning about the noise/vibration/whatever that was probably one of the reasons they brought their house pretty cheap in the first place. Heathrow anyone?
I'll be first to admit (being a humble stacker) that my knowledge of down wash is limited to be blown over whilst waiting to refuel various a/c in some of the worlds finest locations but surely this must be some kind of pay off to stop bad press, not for actual damage?
Seems to be another case of people buying houses underneath the approach to long-standing airfields moaning about the noise/vibration/whatever that was probably one of the reasons they brought their house pretty cheap in the first place. Heathrow anyone?
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Any structural engineers care to comment?
If I worked for the MOD I would have told her to go and
herself.For a start she bought the place in 1984 so it's her fault for not doing her homework as Wokka's were flying out of Odiham years before that date.
Secondly, the onus should be on her to prove it via an engineers report, which wouldn't be an easy thing to do as well as being an expensive undertaking.....
£3,600 for provable damage......hmmmmm.........yeah right.
Instead the MOD just seem to capitulate for an easy life, giving ammo for the ars
oles of this world try it on even more....... And yes, in the hover at 100' or less then maybe you could claim something....but passing overhead at 200' or more......no chance IMHO.
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Jesus H Christ.
The woman has the privilege of hearing that wonderful sound every day, and then has the goddamn balls to complain!!! They aren't called Wokkas for nothing!!
I bet she knows the serial numbers of every one...well, the ones that fly anyway.
Some people don't know they are born, and she is obviously one of them.
The woman has the privilege of hearing that wonderful sound every day, and then has the goddamn balls to complain!!! They aren't called Wokkas for nothing!!
I bet she knows the serial numbers of every one...well, the ones that fly anyway.
Some people don't know they are born, and she is obviously one of them.
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As my dear old Mum used to say....'they should just thank God they don't have red stars on them son!..........' well said Mum.
This silly old fool buys a house close to a big military airbase, and then complains about the noise and a bit of wind blah? I would have thought her argument was with her solicitors for NOT pointing it out to her, not with the boys from Odiham. If you don't like it - MOVE!
People like her just make me despair, along with the fools who have paid her out the money. Can you see an airman getting compensation for something like this? not likely.
Need to go and have a lie down now and take some more medication.
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thank God for Wokkas
This silly old fool buys a house close to a big military airbase, and then complains about the noise and a bit of wind blah? I would have thought her argument was with her solicitors for NOT pointing it out to her, not with the boys from Odiham. If you don't like it - MOVE!
People like her just make me despair, along with the fools who have paid her out the money. Can you see an airman getting compensation for something like this? not likely.
Need to go and have a lie down now and take some more medication.
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In the late 70's I was SDO at Northolt one Sunday when a request was made by Heathrow to see if a BoBF Spitfire inbound to us could do a fly through at LHR.
The Spitfire did a couple of low passes before a crowded viewing balcony and departed for Northolt. Whilst he was on the approach I fielded a "Noise Complaint" from a local resident.
I pointed out that it was a BBMF Spitfire and it had to transit to Northolt at relatively low altitude because of its lack of modern navigation aids.
I got an earful of invective as it was pointed out that said "Gentleman" had lived in his house for over 40 years and he was damned if he was going to put up with this noise.
That's when I booked myself an interview with the Staish - I replied "Did you complain in 1940 then Sir?"
The Spitfire did a couple of low passes before a crowded viewing balcony and departed for Northolt. Whilst he was on the approach I fielded a "Noise Complaint" from a local resident.
I pointed out that it was a BBMF Spitfire and it had to transit to Northolt at relatively low altitude because of its lack of modern navigation aids.
I got an earful of invective as it was pointed out that said "Gentleman" had lived in his house for over 40 years and he was damned if he was going to put up with this noise.
That's when I booked myself an interview with the Staish - I replied "Did you complain in 1940 then Sir?"
What did the Staish have to say?
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[QUOTE=cazatou]"Noise Complaint"
lived in his house for over 40 years and he was damned if he was going to put up with this noise.
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Well if is still alive, I wonder how he reacted to the sight that greeted me about this time last year, maybe a couple of months later, when I drove past the place heading North on a Sunday morning--and noted a Tonka and a couple of Hawks sat on the ramp---which, as, I said to my pax, would "go down well" with the locals when they got airborne !
lived in his house for over 40 years and he was damned if he was going to put up with this noise.
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Well if is still alive, I wonder how he reacted to the sight that greeted me about this time last year, maybe a couple of months later, when I drove past the place heading North on a Sunday morning--and noted a Tonka and a couple of Hawks sat on the ramp---which, as, I said to my pax, would "go down well" with the locals when they got airborne !
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I used to be a QFI member of EMUAS at Newton.
Some total morons bought houses on the perimeter of the airfield and immeditaly started complaining about aircraft noise! Some years later, when the airfield finally closed, for other reasons, they undoubtedly felt very pleased - UNTIL the plans for the illegal immigrant detention centre went in. I would have LOVED to have been a fly on their wall! LOL
Some total morons bought houses on the perimeter of the airfield and immeditaly started complaining about aircraft noise! Some years later, when the airfield finally closed, for other reasons, they undoubtedly felt very pleased - UNTIL the plans for the illegal immigrant detention centre went in. I would have LOVED to have been a fly on their wall! LOL
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Perhaps the Sqn could send her an advanced copy of their flypro - then she could stand in the garden and note down the details of offenders
Hopefully the old bat will get blown away with her slates and roses
Might be a good idea to have her 'ambulance chasers' in the garden as well
Hopefully the old bat will get blown away with her slates and roses
Might be a good idea to have her 'ambulance chasers' in the garden as well
Love the diagram labled "Emergency Flight Path"..... someone should give this woman a slap then drop her off in a certain remote mountain region of pakistan and get her to ask the locals what they think of her opinions... back in her box methinks
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque
I used to be a QFI member of EMUAS at Newton.
Some total morons bought houses on the perimeter of the airfield and immeditaly started complaining about aircraft noise! Some years later, when the airfield finally closed, for other reasons, they undoubtedly felt very pleased - UNTIL the plans for the illegal immigrant detention centre went in. I would have LOVED to have been a fly on their wall! LOL
Some total morons bought houses on the perimeter of the airfield and immeditaly started complaining about aircraft noise! Some years later, when the airfield finally closed, for other reasons, they undoubtedly felt very pleased - UNTIL the plans for the illegal immigrant detention centre went in. I would have LOVED to have been a fly on their wall! LOL
a few years back at the site of the what is now Robin Hood International and within 30mins of the Herc coming in and landing a chap who had brought an ex-OMQ right next to the front gate had decided to come around and complain about the noise. Strange thing was that on a trip down to the shops we noticed that he had a poster supporting turning ex-RAF Finningly into what it is now. I wonder what he thinks of the 747 cargo conversions popping in and out all the time?
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Noise Nuisance
Unfortunately, under environmental legislation, that RAF has no more right than anybody else to create noise that could 'constitute a nuisance'. Truckies will be familiar with a vexatious complainant near the gates to Lyneham who understood this principle and complained (and was listened to) about ac noise, the gain on guards radios etc etc.
Note to self:
Having just re-roofed my house in the Lake District by spending enough money to house 100 families in Sudan in permanent dwellings, I must make a retrospective complaint against the RAF for the obvious damage to the slates. Clearly, low flying ac can corrode nails and rust iron guttering, too.
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Note to self:
Having just re-roofed my house in the Lake District by spending enough money to house 100 families in Sudan in permanent dwellings, I must make a retrospective complaint against the RAF for the obvious damage to the slates. Clearly, low flying ac can corrode nails and rust iron guttering, too.
CC
This type of publicity really grips my sh!t
If it wasn't for said chaps flying around in their marvellous death bananas, as well as any other aircraft in our inventory, then this silly wench would be worrying about the defence of the UK and not her bloody roof.
And as for the chap complaining about the Spitfire....
If it wasn't for said chaps flying around in their marvellous death bananas, as well as any other aircraft in our inventory, then this silly wench would be worrying about the defence of the UK and not her bloody roof.
And as for the chap complaining about the Spitfire....
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What a load of c**k !! I have just watched the local news dealing with the compensation payment. The Chinooks pass over the house at 500' agl, so where is the problem??
I watched the toffee nosed female describing the noise and vibration caused by the RAF low flying over her house.................I wonder how many more claims she will make against the RAF.
I watched the toffee nosed female describing the noise and vibration caused by the RAF low flying over her house.................I wonder how many more claims she will make against the RAF.
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Anybody got a copy of the letter that appeared in the local Andover rag in response to some gripes by NIMBYs about helicopter noise? I will send it to them if somebody can find it, or why not do it yourself; from the BT Website:
J.D.A Wallinger
TEL: 01256 862827
Manor Ho Upton Grey, Basingstoke RG25 2RD
J.D.A Wallinger
TEL: 01256 862827
Manor Ho Upton Grey, Basingstoke RG25 2RD