RAF JPA Rollout
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From: midlands
Soooooo, if I dont get paid can I say they have breached my contract and thus I can consider they have severed my employment/contract. Yipeeee
Then I could miss out on that wonderfull new addition [care of the lovely JPA ]- the loss of 50% of my flying pay during my PVR [which was not in my terms of service when I joined/signed up/signed on etc because I had paid my time and had been retained enough] oh forgot, they can change terms of service any time they like I just have to bend further forward and say 'OOhh just a little more sir'!
Sorry, thats been brewing for a few weeks now.
Ok, loyalty pills.....check.
Lets see ... Increase dose with time served ..... one loyalty pill per year plus an extra 5 per computer system roll out ..... thats .... oh lets call it 30 for capped cash amounts!
Oh, name a computer system that we have introduced in the last 30 years that works as required/requested?
LITS? ALFENS? SAMA? made my point!
Now where is that Bank managers number for overdaft facilities!
Then I could miss out on that wonderfull new addition [care of the lovely JPA ]- the loss of 50% of my flying pay during my PVR [which was not in my terms of service when I joined/signed up/signed on etc because I had paid my time and had been retained enough] oh forgot, they can change terms of service any time they like I just have to bend further forward and say 'OOhh just a little more sir'!
Sorry, thats been brewing for a few weeks now.
Ok, loyalty pills.....check.
Lets see ... Increase dose with time served ..... one loyalty pill per year plus an extra 5 per computer system roll out ..... thats .... oh lets call it 30 for capped cash amounts!
Oh, name a computer system that we have introduced in the last 30 years that works as required/requested?
LITS? ALFENS? SAMA? made my point!
Now where is that Bank managers number for overdaft facilities!
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Lincoln
Originally Posted by Jacks Down
We'll get paid this month as it was done by the old system before they pulled the plug. It's April we need to worry about. Apparently though, we should all keep a month's pay in reserve, so that's OK then!
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From: Equidistant
Originally Posted by ratty1
You wont have this problem as you are on neither...........
He may be on Submariners, Bomb Disposal or Crew Pay!!!
Or was that another thread!!!
More LAter;
'J' Bloke!!
Edited for Red Wine Speeling!!!
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From: Muscat, Oman
Pay day is last working day of the month. Out here the weekend is Thursday/Friday and banks are about to shut. No sign of any pay having gone in yet. May be just local incompetence though and nothing to do with JPA.
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From: Lincolnshire
SARREMF - ASMA and SOMA. Run by operators for operators.
Thing about SOMA was its high overheads.
About 8 units each with a near full-time commissioned minder (Lyneham had a MACR - less secrets
). At Strike there was a full time software engineer and a FOFL with a sqn ldr minder. The course was a week (or maybe two) with annual refreshers, audits etc.
There was also an on-call hardware contractor on a 4-hour notice. Each station had a twin kit (except Lyneham) and two dedicated computer rooms.
If it crashed and you lost data it was probably down to ineptitude by the manager. I hold my hand up now although I blagged it at the time
The system was so good that the RNZAF actually wanted to buy it when we had finished with it
Thing about SOMA was its high overheads.
About 8 units each with a near full-time commissioned minder (Lyneham had a MACR - less secrets
). At Strike there was a full time software engineer and a FOFL with a sqn ldr minder. The course was a week (or maybe two) with annual refreshers, audits etc.There was also an on-call hardware contractor on a 4-hour notice. Each station had a twin kit (except Lyneham) and two dedicated computer rooms.
If it crashed and you lost data it was probably down to ineptitude by the manager. I hold my hand up now although I blagged it at the time
The system was so good that the RNZAF actually wanted to buy it when we had finished with it
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From: The Road to Nowhere
Ha anyone received notification of their Boarding School Allowance (Continuity of Eucation Allowance to give it its correct title now) for the Summer Term yet?
I am pretty sure I should have received notification of payment by now - I have certainly received the bills!
STH
I am pretty sure I should have received notification of payment by now - I have certainly received the bills!
STH
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From: The Roman Empire
STH
Ominous silence on that front where I am. Last year I received my notification of payment for the Summer term in mid February, but nothing this year! I went into PSF today, ignoring all the 'closed for JPA introduction' signs and asked directly. They are chasing it up for me, in terms of will it happen on time, and should have an answer tomorrow!!
Watch this space........
Ominous silence on that front where I am. Last year I received my notification of payment for the Summer term in mid February, but nothing this year! I went into PSF today, ignoring all the 'closed for JPA introduction' signs and asked directly. They are chasing it up for me, in terms of will it happen on time, and should have an answer tomorrow!!
Watch this space........
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From: up there where the air is rare
STH
No CEA chit for me also. Spoke to handbrake house who told me they couldn't help! No shocks there. Spoke to JPAC who told me they couldn't discuss pay over the telephone without a password(not issued). I then got some sense out of the nice chap at allowances who said that it was being paid as a seperate pay run on 6 April. Hopefully he's right!
Regards
SS
No CEA chit for me also. Spoke to handbrake house who told me they couldn't help! No shocks there. Spoke to JPAC who told me they couldn't discuss pay over the telephone without a password(not issued). I then got some sense out of the nice chap at allowances who said that it was being paid as a seperate pay run on 6 April. Hopefully he's right!
Regards
SS
Champagne anyone...?
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From: EGDL
Further to worried emails from obviously concerned friends and colleagues, the real Stopstart has no children, secret or otherwise, and so cares not about boarding school allowance or CEA or whatever it's called.
Thank you. Carry on.
Thank you. Carry on.
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From: uk
With regard to the CEA payments, anyone who submitted the legacy forms up to yesterday, will be happy to know that the JPAC are running the upload of the spreadsheet containing all the info on Monady 3rd.
Payment to Bank accounts in mid April.
See AFPAA site for JPA Bulletin on this matter later today.
Hope this quells the un-ease?
Payment to Bank accounts in mid April.
See AFPAA site for JPA Bulletin on this matter later today.
Hope this quells the un-ease?
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From: Sleaford
USA Rates
For Aeronut:
$10 for B'Fast
$52 for Lunch and Dinner
You can underspend on B and L and use more for D as long as you do not exceed $62. Don't forget IE of $17 per day recepts not needed for under $8 spend on IE, just log it and sign your own chit at end of det. Fun isn't it. Also, don't forget to envy your civil servant mates who do not have any capping, just asked to be sensible. Makes you feel like the scum of the Earth doesn't it?
Regards
Testing
$10 for B'Fast
$52 for Lunch and Dinner
You can underspend on B and L and use more for D as long as you do not exceed $62. Don't forget IE of $17 per day recepts not needed for under $8 spend on IE, just log it and sign your own chit at end of det. Fun isn't it. Also, don't forget to envy your civil servant mates who do not have any capping, just asked to be sensible. Makes you feel like the scum of the Earth doesn't it?
Regards
Testing
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From: Bar to Bar
I think you will find that it is the civil servants who made the rules for us in the first place. The civil service is about the same strength as all three services combined. A FoI question regarding the difference in amount paid to HM Forces in T&S and the civil service T&S would make interesting reading.
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From: Lincolnshire
Don't forget the sensible civil servant is also allowed half a bottle of the Chateau d'Finest and remember the coffee and chocs.
The accommodation must however be booked within the grade limit through CHBS. Non-CHBS is limited to £55. If the accommodation is over the grade limit then the Budman can approve - not a jobsworth in the travel cell.
The accommodation must however be booked within the grade limit through CHBS. Non-CHBS is limited to £55. If the accommodation is over the grade limit then the Budman can approve - not a jobsworth in the travel cell.
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From: The Roman Empire
STH
I got a message from my allowances section yesterday that payment of boarding school allowance (or CEA or whatever it is called these days!!) is on track for payment in mid April!
This would seem to confirm Grimweasel's comment, he sounds far more informed on the matter than I am! So at least you have heard it now from more than one source - so what could possibly go wrong, go wrong, go wrong .................
I got a message from my allowances section yesterday that payment of boarding school allowance (or CEA or whatever it is called these days!!) is on track for payment in mid April!
This would seem to confirm Grimweasel's comment, he sounds far more informed on the matter than I am! So at least you have heard it now from more than one source - so what could possibly go wrong, go wrong, go wrong .................
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From: Scotland
So, you go out to dinner with your mates. You get a joint bill and then split the total, because it is so much easier. Can you photocopy the one receipt and produce that for audit, claiming an appropriate share? If so, what is to stop you making a few more copies and giving a spare to your mate who decided to eat in Burger King that night?
Then there is the subject of the tip for the nice waitress, especially in those countries where tipping is almost mandatory. Is an additional 10% on your bill total going to be acceptable?
Wouldn't it be nice if we could have a system where they just gave you a reasonable sum of money for each day that you were away, and you could just spend it as you wished......?
Then there is the subject of the tip for the nice waitress, especially in those countries where tipping is almost mandatory. Is an additional 10% on your bill total going to be acceptable?
Wouldn't it be nice if we could have a system where they just gave you a reasonable sum of money for each day that you were away, and you could just spend it as you wished......?
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From: Lincolnshire
Where we have shared a meal, say split 5-ways, the hotel usually puts it down as 'dinner' and that is that. Whether you had the sandwich andhe had the lobster matters not a jot - you both pay the £25 and each UIN bears the same weight.
Where the bill is itemised and you shell out an equal amount then that is a little more difficult. You can then 'ring' your items that come near the average.
Tips are permitted in the civil service. However the military receipts only have to be retained for 12 months! In the CS it is 3 years.
Where the bill is itemised and you shell out an equal amount then that is a little more difficult. You can then 'ring' your items that come near the average.
Tips are permitted in the civil service. However the military receipts only have to be retained for 12 months! In the CS it is 3 years.